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DataPrivacy Post #7254 · source on Telegram

iPhone Listens to Conversations and Serves Targeted Ads Immediately

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A tweet from ANA (@anamercury_) overlaid on a mugshot-style photo of Ted Kaczynski (the Unabomber) stating the user's iPhone seemingly listens to intimate conversations and immediately serves targeted Plan B and birth control ads. The meme highlights the widespread belief that smartphones actively listen to conversations for ad targeting, using an extreme personal example to make the surveillance capitalism point viscerally clear. The Kaczynski photo background implies the tweeter's anti-technology paranoia might not be so paranoid after all

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Anonymous ★ Top Pick Your phone's ad-targeting pipeline has lower latency than your production API -- it processes natural language in real-time and deploys ads before you even finish the sentence. Somewhere, a Kafka consumer is jealous of that throughput
  1. Anonymous ★ Top Pick

    Your phone's ad-targeting pipeline has lower latency than your production API -- it processes natural language in real-time and deploys ads before you even finish the sentence. Somewhere, a Kafka consumer is jealous of that throughput

  2. Anonymous

    Some people worry their phone is listening; the real panic is realizing the Kafka consumer group, feature store, and RTB auction all converged on a bid price before you even finished saying “couch pillows.”

  3. Anonymous

    The real horror isn't that your iPhone might be listening - it's realizing your ad profile's ML model has better context awareness than your production NLP pipeline that still can't distinguish between 'Java' the language and 'java' the coffee in bug reports

  4. Anonymous

    The real question isn't whether your phone is listening - it's whether the ML model's confidence score on 'reproductive health product interest' was higher than its NLP accuracy on parsing your bedroom audio. Either way, the recommendation engine's precision-recall tradeoff just got uncomfortably personal, and somewhere a product manager is celebrating their engagement metrics while a privacy engineer quietly updates their résumé

  5. Anonymous

    Your phone isn’t psychic - it’s your shadow profile doing cross‑device probabilistic joins faster than our Kafka consumers

  6. Anonymous

    Apple's Neural Engine: flawless keyword spotting for 'cum inside' at 10m range, but ghosts your 'Hey Siri' from 1m

  7. Anonymous

    It’s rarely the mic - just 14 SDKs, a cross-device graph, SKAdNetwork, and probabilistic fingerprinting doing a tighter join than half our microservices

  8. @YaroST12 10mo

    Not how that works, at all

    1. @hur7m3 10mo

      How does it work?

      1. @pooyabehravesh 10mo

        The cumming inside or the ads services?

        1. @hur7m3 10mo

          Cumming inside of ads

          1. @pooyabehravesh 10mo

            Ok, that was disgustingly funny

      2. @YaroST12 10mo

        It doesn't serve ads based on what you're saying in conversations. She probably searches for plan b regularly and it's a consistent ad for her

        1. @hur7m3 10mo

          Cum

          1. @YaroST12 10mo

            No

        2. @Algoinde 10mo

          The algorithm learned to predict the sexy times

          1. @YaroST12 10mo

            It's not that smart unless she's seeing it in some product from Meta, then yeah 100%

            1. @hur7m3 10mo

              Cum?

            2. @hur7m3 10mo

              Cum!

        3. @deadgnom32 10mo

          yeah, you know. women regularly search for plan B. do they?

          1. @YaroST12 10mo

            The author of the tweet talks about it like it's a regular thing.

        4. @SomeWhereIBelong 10mo

          It literally does tho

        5. @dwtexe 10mo

          Nope probably there is a chip inside of her pussy detects cum for targeted ads

          1. @YaroST12 10mo

            Could be true

      3. dev_meme 10mo

        Depends on the apps installed and the permission they have on the device. Typically it would be Amazon, Google or Meta apps that actively listen and sell keywords on, and yes, they can and do listen. Using open source OS on an android phone with sandboxing (such as GrapheneOS or Linux based) is the only way to actually know your device is not listening to everything you say.

        1. @pnlt_s 10mo

          android is linux based... should be safe then!

          1. dev_meme 10mo

            Android is not open source it is not the same. Android devices call home every 5 seconds with details like location, activity, status, and much more data.

            1. @pnlt_s 10mo

              android is open source though.

              1. dev_meme 10mo

                While the core of android is open source, it includes propriety firmware and google play services by default, which are not open source, and so there is no way of verifying how private your device is in terms of eavesdropping and permissions of applications.

        2. @YaroST12 10mo

          Not true lmao, you can set up a voice assistant app, but all of them only start properly listening and processing after they hear an activation key phrase.

          1. @ayyoshiii 10mo

            Well, they do need to passively listen to hear the activation phrase, don’t they?

            1. @YaroST12 10mo

              Yes but they don't record or store anything before the key phrase. Iirc it's an entirely separate chip that does the key phrase logic

          2. @nightingazer 10mo

            and how exactly do they hear the activation phrase :)

            1. @YaroST12 10mo

              It's the same thing as you sitting in your room while there are people chatting in another room. You can't make out anything, but, at some point you hear your name mentioned and you start listening

              1. @nightingazer 10mo

                alright, that conceptually makes sense, maybe you're right, but I really can't believe they wouldn't use the possibility if they can. and they definitely can

                1. @YaroST12 10mo

                  It's not in their interest to allow that kind of thing because the magnitude of a scandal would be spectacular. Not too mention the impact of ruining speech recognition in the background all the time + sending all of it to the server

                  1. @nightingazer 10mo

                    welp, if you have a dedicated chip for that, then what a problem? also, you don't need to send everything. all you're saying is probably true, and you sound like you know better than me. but still, is there a big difference between literally listening to speech around the device and somehow indirectly deriving this data to serve you ads, when the result is so uncanny?

                    1. @YaroST12 10mo

                      Because that chip either needs a dedicated modem or having a backdoor to the main one. Not to mention all the software logic dedicated to network connections. Results are uncanny because a lot of the time you already searched for something that you are talking about. But think of all the things you haven't googled that you talk about daily? It's possible to implement, very much so, but it's in the best interests of every phone maker not to. Again, the potential for lawsuits is immense, as it's really easy to check if that's happening

                      1. @hur7m3 10mo

                        I say you're a fed trying to gaslight us into believing shit isn't listening to us passively. I bet it's hard to sleep in the same room as you due to all of the glowing.

                        1. @YaroST12 10mo

                          I'm in your walls

                        2. Deleted Account 10mo

                          wooooo foxyyyyy 🦊

                      2. @Algoinde 10mo

                        We explicitly did a clean room experiment where we started yapping about badminton for days (chosen because we never ever talked about it), with apple device and an android device Nothing changed in the ads

  9. @YaroST12 10mo

    But she only notices it every time she needs it.

  10. @RobertBlinov 10mo

    The only Plan B I know of is Bitcoin

    1. @deadgnom32 10mo

      or call a Bro

  11. @YaroST12 10mo

    It's the same thing as you sitting in your room while there are people chatting in another room. You can't make out anything, but, at some point you hear your name mentioned and you start listening

  12. @mrYakov 10mo

    Ads companies just try to match words and products people google and buy after. Then it show ads based of this statistics, so situation in meme can be real, lol

  13. @YaroST12 10mo

    Basically if they were to do what's described in the meme - it would be detectable in a couple of minutes

  14. @nightingazer 10mo

    tiktok most likely does that. because whenever we watch tiktok with my gf, and talk about something (not related to the videos we're watching), a couple of videos later we see something on the topic. it's fucking uncanny. sometimes it may be even without open app (and we don't google it, I've checked)

  15. Deleted Account 10mo

    what happened foxy?

    1. @hur7m3 10mo

      Saturday finally

      1. Deleted Account 10mo

        oh... ok

  16. @razv1el 10mo

    Google ads also use search history from people from the same network as you, so if someone next to you googles sth, you may get an ad for it

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