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When someone proposes database design in sixth normal form
Databases Post #1724, on Jun 19, 2020 in TG

When someone proposes database design in sixth normal form

Why is this Databases meme funny?

Level 1: Over-Organizing Everything

Imagine you have a big box of LEGO bricks mixed together. You want to organize them so you can build things more easily. First, you decide to sort the LEGOs by color: you put all the red pieces in one bin, all the blue pieces in another, and so on. That’s a pretty good idea – it makes things a bit easier to find, and your bins aren’t too messy. Now you have, say, a red bin and a blue bin instead of one giant mixed box. This is like a reasonably organized system.

But then, someone comes along and says, “Hey, let’s organize even more! Let’s put each individual LEGO piece in its own tiny box.” So now, instead of a bin for all red pieces, every single red brick has its own little container. One brick per box, hundreds of little boxes. At first you might think, “Wow, they really like organizing – how cute, they’re being very thorough.” But then you try to actually build something. You want to make a toy car, and you need 10 pieces. Uh-oh: those 10 pieces are all in separate containers. You spend all your time opening box after box, trying to remember which tiny box has which piece. It’s way more work than when they were just sorted by color. You’ve gone from a helpful level of organization to a crazy, over-the-top level that actually makes things worse. You’d probably turn to that overzealous organizer and say, “This is ridiculous! We can’t get anything done because you over-organized it.”

That’s exactly what’s happening in this meme, but with a database idea. A database is like a collection of buckets (tables) that hold information. Organizing a database is good, up to a point – you don’t want everything jumbled in one place. But the suggestion “let’s use sixth normal form” is like saying “let’s put each bit of data in its own tiny bucket.” It’s over-organizing to the extreme. In the comic, the little dog suggests that crazy idea (which is the technical equivalent of those hundreds of tiny LEGO boxes). The person’s reaction – holding their face and going “Oh no… it’s [very dumb]!” – is just like how you’d react to the over-organized LEGO situation: with disbelief and frustration. The meme is funny because it shows a cute, innocent setup (a person praising a cute dog or a seemingly good intention to organize) flipping into a comically bad outcome (the suggestion is just too much and the person is shocked).

In simple terms: the dog says “Let’s organize this database in the most absurdly detailed way possible!” and the person realizes that’s a terrible plan. It’s making fun of the idea that you can actually overdo something that’s usually good (being organized), to the point where it’s counterproductive. We laugh because the scenario is exaggerated and unexpected – nobody expects the cute dog to propose something so over-the-top. And the person’s panicked, blunt response (using a not-nice word to call the idea stupid) is an exaggerated way to show just how bad that idea is. It’s like if your friend suggested sorting your socks by the thread count of the fabric and you yell, “That’s crazy!”

So, the core joke is: too much organization can be just as bad as none at all. The meme uses a silly/extreme example – a “sixth normal form” database – which basically means breaking data into way too many pieces. Even if you don’t know databases, you can understand through the analogy: it’s when someone’s attempt to be perfectly organized just becomes ridiculous. The poor dog probably thought it was being smart, but our stick-figure friend is like, “Nope, that idea ruined it.” In the end, it’s a humorous reminder not to get lost in perfection – sometimes good enough is better than so good it’s bad!

Level 2: Breaking Up Data

Let’s step back and explain some terms for those newer to DatabaseDesign. A relational database (like one you interact with via SQL) stores information in tables. Each table is kind of like a spreadsheet: rows represent records (e.g., one row per user) and columns represent attributes of those records (e.g., name, email, age). Database normalization is a set of guidelines or principles used when designing these tables so that the data is structured efficiently and consistently. These principles are grouped into “normal forms,” numbered 1 and up. The higher the normal form, generally, the more you’ve organized (and split up) the data to remove duplication and inconsistencies.

Here’s a quick rundown of the early database_normal_forms:

  • 1st Normal Form (1NF): Each column holds only a single value (no lists or multiple values in one cell), and each row is unique. So, e.g., you wouldn’t have a column that sometimes contains an array of tags or a comma-separated list of emails in a single field. Everything is atomic (indivisible) in 1NF.
  • 2nd Normal Form (2NF): First, you have to be in 1NF. Then, 2NF says that if a table has a composite key (a primary key made of multiple columns), each non-key column must depend on all parts of that key, not just one part. In simpler terms: every piece of information in the row should relate to the whole primary key. If not, you should move that piece to a different table where it does depend on the key. This eliminates certain kinds of redundancy. (If your table has a single-column primary key, 2NF is automatically satisfied once you’re in 1NF.)
  • 3rd Normal Form (3NF): You must be in 2NF, and additionally, no non-key column should depend on another non-key column. In other words, all the non-key info depends only on the primary key, nothing else. This prevents transitive dependencies (like A depends on B, and B depends on key, so indirectly A depends on key through B – 3NF would have you separate A and B into different tables to break that chain). 3NF is a very common goal because it gets rid of most redundant data. For example, if you have a Customers table, and each customer has a ZIP code and a City, you might separate out the ZIP-to-City mapping into its own table. Otherwise, you’d be repeating the City name for every customer in the same ZIP – a redundancy 3NF wants to avoid.

Most practical database designs aim for 3NF (or a variant called Boyce-Codd Normal Form, similar to 3NF but a bit stricter in some edge cases). Achieving 3NF usually handles the big redundancy problems. Now, there are 4th Normal Form (4NF) and 5th Normal Form (5NF) beyond that: 4NF deals with more complex cases like multi-valued facts (if one record has a one-to-many relation hidden in it, you’d separate that) and 5NF (also called Project-Join NF) ensures that if you break a table into smaller ones, you can always join them back without spurious data – it’s about resolving every possible join dependency. However, honestly, very few real-world databases need to worry about 5NF – those are edge cases (like a table modeling an m:n relationship among three or more entities) that most developers never encounter. These higher normal forms (4NF, 5NF) tend to show up mainly in theoretical discussions or extremely specialized systems.

Now enter Sixth Normal Form (6NF). This one is so specialized that a lot of developers might not even have heard of it in school. 6NF is essentially saying: take normalization as far as it can possibly go. A table in 6NF is decomposed to the point where it cannot be decomposed any further without losing information. In practical terms, that often means each piece of data lives in its own table. If you had a Users table in 3NF with columns for FirstName, LastName, Email, imagine in 6NF you might literally have separate tables: User_FirstName, User_LastName, User_Email, each with a User ID key and the value. It’s extreme. The only dependencies left are the ones that are absolutely necessary (like “this first name belongs to this user ID”), and nothing else. This level of normalization is far beyond what’s typically needed. It’s mostly a concept you find in research papers or topics like data warehousing design (and even there, it’s a niche approach).

So why do we call proposing 6NF over_normalization? Because it’s pushing the idea of “splitting data to eliminate redundancy” way past the point of usefulness. Over-normalization is an anti-pattern where you apply so many normalization rules that you end up with an overly complex schema that’s hard to work with. Instead of a few well-structured tables, you get maybe dozens or hundreds of tiny tables. Yes, you removed every last bit of duplicate data, but now simple queries become giant puzzles because the data is fragmented into so many pieces. For example, to assemble one record you might have to join, say, 10 small tables — which is inefficient and hard to maintain. In many situations, that level of fragmentation isn’t necessary to ensure consistency; it’s just taking a good thing (clean design) too far. It’s like following a recipe precisely even when it says “add salt to taste” – if you keep adding because the rule didn’t explicitly tell you to stop, you’ll ruin the dish. Likewise, normalization guidelines have a reasonable stopping point in practice.

Now, context for the meme: In developer humor, there’s a running joke that anything beyond 3NF is usually overkill unless you have a very specific reason. So when a character (the tiny dog) suggests, “Let’s use 6th normal form,” it’s intentionally absurd. It’s the kind of suggestion a very green developer fresh out of a databases class might make thinking “higher normal form = better,” or a theoretical database pundit might mention in a purity argument. But in a normal software team meeting, suggesting 6NF would probably cause awkward silence or laughter, because it’s so impractical. In other words, relational database design rarely, if ever, goes that far in normal business apps.

The meme panels break down like this: first, the person sees the dog and says “Aw look how cute.” This is like the team initially appreciating a new idea or a new team member’s enthusiasm. The dog looks harmless and nice. But then in panel 2, we zoom in on the dog’s face as it says “Let’s use 6th normal form.” Suddenly, that “cute” idea isn’t so cute — it’s terrifying! The dog’s expression is drawn with narrowed, almost scheming eyes, which adds to the comedic effect that it’s seriously suggesting something devious. Panel 3 shows the person’s shock: “Oh no.” Hands on cheeks, alarmed expression — the person is visibly horrified by the suggestion. And then panel 4, the person delivers the punchline: “It’s r*****.”* They’re basically saying, “That idea is really, really dumb.” The use of that slur (the R-word) is intentionally crass — it’s a known meme phrase from this particular comic format, used to depict an extreme negative reaction. It’s ableist language, and not something you’d want to use in real life. The meme is employing it for shock value and emphasis: to show just how far beyond acceptable the dog’s idea is. In a way, the offensiveness of the word underscores how off-the-charts bad the suggestion is perceived to be. (It’s worth noting that within tech and meme communities, there’s growing sensitivity about such language — it’s recognized as offensive. Here it’s used as dark humor, not approval of the slur.)

This comic is a specific template often called the “cute dog ‘It’s r*****’”* meme. It’s been around the internet, with people replacing the dog’s quote with different silly suggestions to fit various situations. In this instance, the silly suggestion is a piece of DatabaseHumor: using sixth_normal_form. The meme targets RelationalDatabaseDesign nerdiness and makes it relatable by wrapping it in a simple cartoon scenario. Even without deep knowledge, you can tell that the dog said something to completely ruin the moment. But knowing what 6NF is (or at least knowing that it’s way beyond normal practice) makes it extra funny to those in the know. It’s like an inside joke among database professionals: “remember that wild concept from database theory that we never actually use? Imagine someone seriously suggesting that!”

So, put simply: The dog is suggesting an extremely over-engineered database design (over-normalization to the max), and the person reacts by basically saying “yikes, that’s a terrible idea.” The humor comes from the contrast — an innocent cute setup leading to an absurdly over-the-top technical idea, leading in turn to an equally over-the-top repudiation. It’s a little mocking pat on the back for anyone who’s had to talk a teammate down from needless complexity. And for newcomers, it’s a cautionary tale wrapped in a joke: just because you can normalize something to the theoretical limit doesn’t mean you should.

Level 3: Normalization Overkill

In practice, proposing 6NF in a normal project meeting is a lot like proposing to refactor the entire codebase in assembly language “for efficiency” – you’ll mostly get stunned silence or nervous laughter. Seasoned database engineers are intimately familiar with the trade-offs in DatabaseDesign. They’ve seen how too many joins can cripple performance, how overly fragmented schemas become maintenance nightmares, and how theoretical purity can clash with real-world constraints. So when the dog in the meme perks up and says:

Dog: “Let’s use 6th normal form.”

it immediately triggers a facepalm reaction. The first panel’s “Aw look how cute” sets us up to think the dog (like a junior dev or an academic suggestion) might say something innocent or clever. But in the second panel, the dog’s narrowed eyes and the absurd proposal signal a dramatic turn. The stick figure’s expression changes to horrified disbelief. By the third and fourth panels, the person is so shocked that they respond with, “Oh no… It’s r*****.”* – using a strong derogatory term (the R-word, an offensive slur meaning “completely foolish”) to slam the idea. The meme leverages this over-the-top reaction for dark humor. It’s deliberately edgy: the person essentially calls the idea “ridiculously stupid.” This blunt punchline shocks the reader a bit (since that language is far from polite), which adds to the humor in a guilty-laugh kind of way. In developer subculture, this particular dog comic template is infamous for that line – it’s a crude way to say “that’s unbelievably dumb.”

From a senior developer’s perspective, why is the suggestion of 6NF so cringe-inducing? Because it screams over_normalization to the point of self-sabotage. In real RelationalDatabaseDesign, you usually normalize to eliminate redundancy just enough to avoid inconsistencies, but not so much that your data becomes too scattered to use. Most production databases stick to 3NF (or maybe denormalize a bit, doing the opposite, to improve performance). Very few ever touch 5NF, and 6NF is virtually unheard of in everyday applications. In fact, seasoned engineers often worry more about under-normalized schemas (which cause data anomalies) or over-normalized schemas (which cause performance and complexity headaches). DatabaseHumor often pokes fun at that tension between academic ideals and practical needs. This meme zeroes in on the latter – the absurdity of a theoretically perfect design that would be a nightmare in reality.

To visualize why 6NF is impractical, consider how data retrieval works. In a moderately normalized database (say 3NF), you might need a couple of JOIN operations to collate data from related tables – that’s normal. But in a 6NF design, you’d have exploded the data into so many tables that reconstructing a single entity’s information becomes a marathon of joins. Imagine a simple user profile spread across numerous tiny tables: one for names, one for emails, one for phone numbers, etc., all linked by user IDs. Getting the full profile would require joining all of them back together. A SQL query for a severely normalized schema might look like this:

-- Extreme normalization example: each attribute is its own table
SELECT u.id,
       f.first_name,
       l.last_name,
       e.email,
       p.phone
FROM UserIDs AS u
JOIN UserFirstName AS f ON u.id = f.user_id
JOIN UserLastName  AS l ON u.id = l.user_id
JOIN UserEmail     AS e ON u.id = e.user_id
JOIN UserPhone     AS p ON u.id = p.user_id;
-- So many JOINs just to assemble one user's info!

That’s five tables just to piece together one user’s basic details – and it could be even more if you separated first and last name into different tables (truly 6NF style). Each JOIN adds overhead. Senior devs know that the more joins you have, the slower and more fragile your query can become. It’s not uncommon for teams to do the opposite of 6NF: they denormalize some parts of the database (e.g., store a redundant column or pre-joined summary tables) to speed up frequent queries. They’ve learned that a 100% normalized design, while clean on paper, can bog down an application with complex queries and difficult schema changes.

The meme highlights this with satire. The dog’s suggestion represents that one teammate (or that inner voice) that’s obsessed with purity or has just enough theoretical knowledge to propose something impractical. The human’s panicked reaction – clutching their face and exclaiming “Oh no!” – captures how a team lead or database veteran might feel internally: “This will end in disaster.” The final offensive remark (calling the idea retarded, which is definitely not office-friendly language) is an exaggerated, cynical punchline. It’s the kind of hyperbolic reaction people joke about but (hopefully) wouldn’t actually say at work. Think of it as a morbidly humorous way of saying, “That idea is so bad, it defies common sense.”

In essence, the comic is riffing on RelatableHumor for developers: we’ve all seen suggestions that are technically “by the book” but wildly impractical. It’s poking fun at the gap between theory and practice. The DatabaseDesignPrinciples taught in school say “more normalization is always better” up to a point – but the reality on the job is that too much normalization (like 6NF) can be counter-productive. This disconnect is why the meme resonates. Experienced devs chuckle because yes, it’s technically a thing, but anyone proposing 6NF in a normal project must be either joking or very misguided. As a community joke, “6NF” has become shorthand for “needlessly complicated solution.” The meme takes that to the extreme with the dog comic format: cute suggestion, catastrophic realization.

Let’s break down the core reasons this scenario is funny (and cringey) to us:

  • Ridiculous Complexity: 6NF would multiply a database into countless little tables. Just visualizing that complexity is comical. It’s like suggesting we map out the entire world on a grain of rice – absurd overkill.
  • Performance Nightmare: The thought of every query requiring dozens of joins makes any senior developer shudder. It’s humor grounded in pain: we know how bad that would perform.
  • Theory vs. Reality: There’s an inside joke here about academic knowledge versus real-world experience. The dog’s line feels like something an over-enthusiastic college student or a pedantic architect might say without realizing the practical implications. The seasoned dev (the stick figure) immediately recognizes it as a terrible idea.
  • Shock Value: The meme uses a known edgy punchline – “It’s r******” – to amplify the reaction. It’s so over-the-top and inappropriate that it flips back around to dark humor. In the tech community, people sometimes use such memes to vent frustration or laugh at absurd scenarios, though they wouldn’t use that language seriously.

All combined, the image satirizes a moment many teams can relate to: when someone takes a good principle (like normalization) way beyond the point of sanity. The initial “Aw, cute” sentiment in the first panel could even reflect how we often react to new ideas or new team members – welcoming and optimistic – but then the idea reveals itself to be a monstrosity and we’re like, “abort mission!” The dog_comic_template perfectly delivers this narrative by literally spelling out the shift from adorable to horrifyingly dumb. The final panel’s text is crude, but that crudeness is part of the meme’s long-running format for emphasizing, “Nope, that’s just plain stupid.”

So, a senior developer reading this meme is likely nodding and laughing (perhaps with a groan), because the humor cuts close to the truth. We’ve all had those meetings where someone proposes an architecture or schema that’s technically clever but practically a disaster. This meme just encapsulates that in one quick, outrageous punchline. It’s a cautionary chuckle: just because something is the most normalized or theoretically “correct” design doesn’t mean it’s actually a good idea. In one phrase: Normalization gone wild. The seasoned perspective is clear – 6NF is normalization overkill, and suggesting it will earn you some TechHumor sarcasm like in this comic.

Level 4: Normalization Nirvana

In the relational database realm, sixth normal form (6NF) is an almost mythical creature of extreme normalization. Database normalization is based on formal rules (normal forms) that originated in relational algebra theory. The progression from 1NF up to 5NF (First through Fifth Normal Forms) increasingly minimizes redundancy and dependency by decomposing tables. By the time you reach 5NF (also called Project-Join Normal Form), you’ve eliminated all non-trivial join dependencies – an esoteric condition that usually only appears in academic papers. So what on earth is 6NF? Essentially, 6NF is a state of complete decomposition: every relational table is broken down to a point where it cannot be decomposed any further without losing information. Formally, a table in 6NF has no non-trivial join dependencies at all (only trivial ones that are inherent to the primary key). This concept was largely defined in theoretical work by database luminaries like Chris Date, and it’s so specialized that it mainly shows up in niche scenarios such as temporal databases and anchor modeling.

To put it another way, a 6NF design is one where each fact is stored in its own table. If you imagine a normal table that has several columns, 6NF would split that table into many tables, each containing a subset (often just one) of those columns plus the primary key. The idea is to achieve ultimate relational purity: absolutely no redundancy, no update anomalies, and perfect flexibility to add new types of data without altering existing table schemas. In an academic sense, this is like reaching nirvana in DatabaseDesignPrinciples: every dependency is explicitly represented, and the data model is mathematically elegant. It’s the logical extreme of database_normal_forms theory.

Why would anyone define such an extreme? One practical reason is in systems that track time-variant data (like historical changes to each attribute). In an approach known as Anchor Modeling, each attribute of an entity (e.g., “Employee’s Salary” or “Customer’s Address”) might reside in its own table with a timestamp, effectively a 6NF design. This can simplify certain queries about how data changes over time and avoid having many null columns for unused attributes. It also can improve data warehouse compression since each column (now in its own table) can be optimized individually. Moreover, splitting into atomic pieces can reduce contention in high-concurrency systems, because different parts of a record can be updated independently. In theory, 6NF maximizes flexibility and minimizes duplication – a very pure form of DatabaseDesign.

However, these theoretical upsides come at a huge cost: explosion of the number of tables and the joins needed to reconstruct information. The mathematics of normalization (based on functional and join dependencies) guarantees that a fully decomposed (6NF) schema retains the same information without redundancy, but it says nothing about efficiency. In the real world, we usually stop at 3NF or BCNF (Boyce-Codd Normal Form) because going further yields diminishing returns. Fourth Normal Form (4NF) handles multi-valued dependencies and Fifth Normal Form (5NF) deals with very rare join dependency cases – but most developers have never seen a 5NF schema outside of textbooks. 6NF is even more exotic; it’s virtually academic humor that it exists at all. So, when someone nonchalantly proposes “Let’s use 6th normal form,” they’re invoking a level of RelationalDatabaseDesign so extreme that it’s both impressive and absurd. It’s like a chemist suggesting an ultra-distilled solution for a simple cleaning job – theoretically pure, but practically overkill. This deep theoretical backdrop is what makes the meme’s suggestion so outlandish from a technical perspective.

Description

Four - panel, black-and-white line-drawing meme. Panel 1 (top-left): a stick-figure person bends toward a small dog saying, “Aw look how cute.” Panel 2 (top-right): a close-up of the dog’s head with narrowed eyes; above it reads, “Let’s use 6th normal form.” Panel 3 (bottom-left): the person stands upright, palms to cheeks, exclaiming, “Oh no.” Panel 4 (bottom-right): the person repeats the pose and text bubble reads, “It’s r******” (ableist slur, partially censored here). The joke targets extreme over-normalization in relational schema design - going far beyond the usual 3rd normal form - implying that suggesting 6NF is excessive and counter-productive

Comments

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Anonymous ★ Top Pick Suggesting 6NF is like pitching a microservice for every column - sure, the schema’s pure, but now every SELECT is a distributed systems post-mortem waiting to happen
  1. Anonymous ★ Top Pick

    Suggesting 6NF is like pitching a microservice for every column - sure, the schema’s pure, but now every SELECT is a distributed systems post-mortem waiting to happen

  2. Anonymous

    The only thing more normalized than a 6NF database is the developer's social life after implementing it - completely decomposed into atomic, non-interacting units that require complex joins to produce any meaningful relationships

  3. Anonymous

    Ah yes, 6th normal form - because nothing says 'I understand databases' quite like decomposing your schema into so many tables that a simple SELECT requires more JOINs than your team has patience for code reviews. It's the database equivalent of microservices taken to their logical extreme: theoretically pure, practically unusable, and guaranteed to make your DBA question your architectural decisions during the 3 AM incident call when that 47-table join times out

  4. Anonymous

    6NF: Where every fact lives in its own table, and your SELECT turns into a 50-way JOIN party

  5. Anonymous

    6NF: microservices for columns - cute on the whiteboard, brutal in prod; now every SELECT is a 24-way JOIN and EXPLAIN reads like a postmortem

  6. Anonymous

    Propose 6NF for an OLTP schema and the optimizer opens a Jira: “Recompose reality via JOINs.”

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