Python is just a C framework. Change my mind

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This meme uses the popular 'Steven Crowder's Change My Mind' format. The image features a man in a blue long-sleeved shirt sitting confidently at a black table outdoors on a brick patio, holding a mug. On the table is a large white sign with bold black text that reads, 'Python is a C framework'. Below this, in a smaller font and underlined, is the phrase 'CHANGE MY MIND'. The meme template is typically used to present a controversial or debatable opinion as a challenge. The technical joke here lies in the nuanced truth of the statement. The most common Python implementation, CPython, is written in the C programming language. This means the Python interpreter itself is a C program, and all Python code is executed by this C application. For senior developers, this is a humorous oversimplification that blurs the lines between a programming language, its implementation, and a framework, sparking a classic semantic debate about software abstractions

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Anonymous ★ Top Pick Saying Python is a C framework is like saying a car is just a gasoline framework. It's not wrong, but it completely misses the point and is guaranteed to annoy the purists

Anonymous ★ Top Pick

Saying Python is a C framework is like saying a car is just a gasoline framework. It's not wrong, but it completely misses the point and is guaranteed to annoy the purists
Anonymous

Fine, call Python a framework - just remember every time you forget a `Py_DECREF`, you’re technically leaking memory in your ‘frontend.’
Anonymous

After 20 years of explaining to executives why our Python microservices need more RAM than the entire Apollo program, I'm starting to think maybe we should just admit we're running a very elaborate C interpreter with really nice syntax sugar and a garbage collector that kicks in right when you're demoing to the board
Anonymous

The provocative claim that 'Python is a C framework' brilliantly captures a truth that makes Pythonistas uncomfortable: beneath all those elegant list comprehensions and duck typing lies thousands of lines of C code doing the heavy lifting. It's the programming equivalent of discovering your artisanal coffee shop sources beans from the same supplier as the gas station down the street - technically accurate, philosophically devastating, and guaranteed to start arguments at any tech meetup
Anonymous

Python as a C framework? Only if 'import' is your FFI and the GIL your global mutex - check the flamegraph
Anonymous

If Python is a C framework, the GIL is the built-in global mutex decorator and pip is just a dependency injector for .so files
Anonymous

CPython: the framework that hides C so well, until your hot loop begs for extensions
Deleted Account 2y

one of those posts that should have comments disabled
@ygerlach 2y

C is a Python framework
Deleted Account 2y

And C is framework for assembly
1. Deleted Account 2y
  
  I mean C and C++ they both good if they have real package manager but python ? Man its really good when i have some small or webproject
  
  @LennyLizowzskiy 2y
  
  > Man its really good when i have some small or webproject we have that thing called nodejs (bun lol)
  
  Deleted Account 2y
  
  No i mean for backend i use django very good and straight framework i didnt work with js but people told me go type script instead
@LennyLizowzskiy 2y

expressjs for example
@VaniLLLaCaramel 2y

C and C++ is like Android and Python is an iPhone. It's all you need to know. If you wanna be cool use an iPhone
1. @RiedleroD 2y
  
  that's incredibly wrong in ways I don't care to explain right now
2. @lavolpenoire 2y
  
  Apple comparsion, as usual, sound more like "If you dumb enough to listen sales manager who tell you that you're cool just when you use their product...and that enough for you to trust them and believe on yourself and what you use"
3. @MLXProjects 2y
  
  More like the exact opposite, since iOS is mostly native and Android uses Java & lots of abstraction layers :P
@VaniLLLaCaramel 2y

Developers who are using C have no friends
1. @sylfn 2y
  
  my gf uses C for her projects sometimes
2. @endisn16h 2y
  
  i still use c for my projects, but since im technically not a developer i am allowed to have friends still😁
dev_meme 2y

Also > gf uses C
@sylfn 2y

let it be more impossible in your eyes We are both programmer girls
1. @RiedleroD 2y
  
  > has a gf > is a gf
  
  @sylfn 2y
  
  cc @purplesyringa
  
  @purplesyringa 2y
  
  thanks for the cc btw
@chupasaurus 2y

Only if each framework translates the code to it's own bytecode (yes, Python has it)
1. @LennyLizowzskiy 2y
  
  no, python doesn't have its own "bytecode" it's called IR (intermediate representation)
  
  @chupasaurus 2y
  
  I heard it from Guido.
  
  @RiedleroD 2y
  
  that's exactly what bytecode is
  
  @LennyLizowzskiy 2y
  
  IR translates to bytecode
  
  @RiedleroD 2y
  
  IR is bytecode
@scout_ca11sign 2y

Any programming language is a C framework if you stretch your imagination wide enough
1. @RiedleroD 2y
  
  tell me how fortran is a C framework
@SamsonovAnton 2y

Probably meant grandfather. 👨‍🦳
1. @sylfn 2y
  
  lmao
@endisn16h 2y

yes way, getting girlfirends is not that hard, but the part about C is definitely cap
1. @callofvoid0 2y
  
  I beg to differ
  
  @endisn16h 2y
  
  y
2. @purplesyringa 2y
  
  yeah i mostly prefer rust these days
@V0W4N 2y

as a python user can confirm that it indeed is

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