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The Absurdity of Floating-Point Precision in Coordinates
CS Fundamentals Post #1623, on May 26, 2020 in TG

The Absurdity of Floating-Point Precision in Coordinates

Why is this CS Fundamentals meme funny?

Level 1: Pinpointing Waldo

Imagine you’re telling a friend where to find something, like a hidden treasure or Waldo in a picture. You could say, “It’s in this area,” or if they need more help, “It’s on this street in the city.” But what if you started giving super-crazy details, like: “Go to this house, then into the second bedroom, now look at the third brick from the left on the floor, there’s a tiny crack on its corner – the treasure is in that crack.” 😅 That would be way too much detail, right? This meme is joking about the same idea but with map coordinates. With just a little detail, you can point to a city or neighborhood – that’s useful, like saying “Waldo is on the left page, near the park in the picture.” But if you keep adding ridiculous detail, it’s like trying to tell someone exactly which grain of sand Waldo is standing on, or which atom on the page is part of Waldo’s shirt. It becomes silly and not helpful. The comic is funny because it shows someone going overboard with precision, and basically says, “Okay, that’s enough – you really don’t need to be THAT exact!” It’s making us laugh at how unnecessary and crazy it would be to pinpoint something with so many tiny details when a simple pointer would do.

Level 2: Decimal Degrees Decoded

Let’s break down the joke in simpler terms. We’re dealing with latitude/longitude coordinates, which are numbers that tell you a location on Earth. Latitude (the first number, like 28.523451°N) tells how far north or south you are, and longitude (the second number, like 80.683094°W) tells how far east or west. These coordinates are often given in decimal degrees. The more decimal digits you include, the more precise the location.

  • If you say 28°N, 80°W with no decimal part, you’re referring to a very large area (a degree is huge – on the order of hundreds of kilometers). That’s why the chart jokes that with such low precision you must be doing something “space-related” – for example, a rocket scientist might only care that a launch site is around 28°N 80°W generally, without needing finer detail in that context. (In fact, 28°N 80°W is around Cape Canaveral in Florida, where rockets launch. They don’t need pinpoint coordinates for the whole region, just general location on the globe.)

  • Now add one decimal: 28.5°N, 80.6°W. This narrows it down a lot – roughly to a city. One decimal place in coordinates is like saying “somewhere in this city” instead of “somewhere in this state.” The meme says “pointing out a specific city.” So, 28.5°N, 80.6°W might land you near a particular city in Florida (indeed near the Space Coast).

  • Two decimals: 28.52°N, 80.68°W. That’s even more precise, about a neighborhood in size. Think of zooming in on a map: each extra decimal is like one more level of zoom. At this precision, you’re not just in a city, but in one part of that city.

  • Three decimals: 28.523°N, 80.683°W. Now we’re talking about a very specific area, maybe a suburban cul-de-sac (a small dead-end street or block). 0.001° of latitude/longitude is on the order of 100 meters or so. So you could identify a particular street or cluster of houses.

  • Four decimals: 28.5234°N, 80.6830°W. This is pinpointing roughly a house-sized area. The meme humorously says “a particular corner of a house.” Indeed, 0.0001° is about 11 meters, so you’re honing in on a corner of a property. We’re basically at house-address resolution with 4 decimal places.

  • Five decimals: 28.52345°N, 80.68309°W. Now it’s getting really tight – roughly within a meter. That’s like saying “inside the house, this exact spot in the room.” The comic notes “you’re pointing to a specific person in a room”. At this level, if two people are in the same room, a coordinate that precise could distinguish between them. But here’s the kicker: it adds “but since you didn't include datum information, we can’t tell who.” In plain terms, datum information refers to the exact map model used (like which exact version of the globe or coordinates system). If you don’t include that detail, those super-fine coordinates might be ambiguous. It’s a nerdy way to say: “you gave an incredibly precise number, but left out context, so it’s uselessly precise.”

  • Six decimals: 28.523451°N, 80.683094°W. This is about 10 centimeters of accuracy. Now the comic is being playful: “you’re pointing to Waldo on a page.” Waldo is the character from “Where’s Waldo?” (a puzzle book where Waldo is a tiny figure hidden in busy illustrations). The joke is that with such precision, theoretically you could specify something as small as a character on a page by coordinates. Of course, in reality latitude/longitude isn’t used for things that small – Waldo lives in a book, not on the global map! But this exaggeration shows how adding more decimals goes from practical to silly.

  • Eight to nine decimals: 28.523451782°N, 80.683094159°W (that’s nine decimal places shown). That level of precision is around a fraction of a millimeter (think of the size of a grain of sand). The comic quips, “Hey, check out this specific sand grain!” It’s highlighting how ridiculous it is to use lat/lon to identify something as tiny as a single grain of sand. No GPS or map can target individual grains of sand – the Earth’s surface isn’t that exact, and our measurement tools aren’t either. This is comedic hyperbole to show how meaningless those extra digits have become.

  • Finally, the monster of all coordinates with like 15 decimal places: 28.523451782812884°N, 80.683094715263558°W. This is beyond any normal usage. The text says: “Either you’re handing out raw floating point variables, or you’ve built a database to track individual atoms. In either case, please stop.” Let’s unpack that. A raw floating point variable is basically the unrounded number that computers use internally. If someone shows you a coordinate with that many digits, it probably came straight from a computer’s memory without any formatting. It’s like if a computer calculated a number and you just copied every digit it gave you – many of those digits are not actually reliable. The comic is half-joking that the only reason you’d have such a crazy coordinate is either you didn’t bother to round it (so you’re showing meaningless extra digits), or you’re doing something as absurd as tracking atoms with unique coordinates. Tracking individual atoms is not something done with lat/long coordinates in any real scenario – it’s a wild exaggeration to make you laugh at how over-the-top this is.

The phrase “please stop” is the author’s humorous way of saying, “this is way too much – no one should be doing this.” It’s funny because it’s true: including so many decimals in a coordinate is generally pointless and can even be misleading. In software and data science, we talk about significant figures – only a certain number of digits actually carry meaning. If you give more than that, you’re implying a level of certainty and detail that you just don’t have. Here, the comic uses that concept in a relatable way: each extra decimal in a location has diminishing returns, and after a while it just becomes a joke.

It also touches on a bit of geo-tech detail with the datum mention: A datum is like the specific map or model of Earth you’re using. For almost all everyday uses, everyone assumes the same datum (like the global standard WGS84), so people usually omit it. But if you’re working at extremely fine precision (centimeters!), different datums or reference frames can diverge by a little bit. The comic pokes fun by suggesting that not including the datum info makes it impossible to know which “specific person in a room” the coordinate refers to. It’s a playful nod to the idea that if you’re going to be ridiculously precise, you better also be correct about every aspect (like using the right reference frame) – otherwise those digits are meaningless.

In summary, this meme is showing in a creative way how adding more decimal places to a latitude/longitude turns a general location into a super-specific one, and then into pure absurdity. It’s both educational (you learn what each level of precision might correspond to) and humorous (because it takes the idea to such an extreme). For a junior developer or someone new to geospatial data, the key takeaway is: there is such a thing as too much precision. More digits don’t always mean a better answer – after a certain point, they’re just for comedy or require context that nobody provided. And yes, if you ever see a coordinate with 18 digits of precision, you have every right to chuckle and say, “Okay, that’s a bit much!”

Level 3: From City to Sand Grain

For seasoned developers and map enthusiasts, this meme nails the humor in FloatingPointPrecision and absurd data accuracy. It presents a table of latitude/longitude examples where each additional decimal digit zooms in on a location, until it becomes ridiculously specific. Why is this funny? Because in real life, nobody needs (or can use) that kind of exactness in everyday coordinates – it’s precision far beyond practical meaning. The meme starts reasonably: 28° N, 80° W could refer to a broad area (28 North, 80 West is around Florida’s Space Coast). With no decimals, you’re probably talking about a general region – hence “you’re probably doing something space-related”, a wink at NASA’s launch sites around 28°N 80°W. Add one decimal place (28.5°N, 80.6°W) and now you’re honing in on a city (indeed, ~28.5,-80.6 is near Cape Canaveral or Cocoa Beach, a specific city area). Two decimals (28.52°N, 80.68°W) narrow it further – think of this like pointing to a particular neighborhood on the map. Three decimals (~111 m precision) pinpoint a block or cul-de-sac, as the comic says. Four decimals (~11 m) is roughly the size of a house, so 28.5234°N… gets you to a “particular corner of a house.” By five decimals (~1.1 m), you’re down to human scale – a single person could be identified at that spot (which person in the room?). The comic jokes that at 5-6 decimals, if you don’t specify the map datum, we can’t be sure exactly who you mean – a sly reference to how different mapping standards could shift a coordinate enough to swap one person for another.

As the decimals increase, the target gets more comically specific. Six decimals (~0.11 m or 11 cm) is “pointing to Waldo on a page.” This is a hilarious image: using global coordinates to find Waldo from the “Where’s Waldo?” books — essentially pinpointing a tiny cartoon character on a page using lat/lon. It’s a perfect metaphor for precision_vs_meaning: yes, the coordinate is super precise, but it’s being applied to an absurd scenario. We all get the reference: Waldo is notoriously hard to find, but come on, you wouldn’t literally use coordinates to do it! The joke lands especially with developers who’ve seen over-precision in action, like an API returning location data with way more decimal places than any sane use-case requires. It’s a flavor of TechHumor that pokes fun at our tendency to equate more data with better data.

Next, at nine decimal places (~0.000000001° ≈ 0.1 mm!), the comic says “Hey, check out this specific sand grain!” Now it’s just escalating into the absurd. A grain of sand is tiny – on the order of a tenth of a millimeter. If you’re claiming to pinpoint something that small via latitude/longitude, you’ve left the realm of normal geospatial use. The highest-end GPS devices, surveying equipment, or satellite imagery can’t resolve anywhere near a single grain of sand on a beach. This is DataAccuracy gone awry: providing precision that far exceeds the accuracy or relevance of the data. It’s the geo-data equivalent of using a sledgehammer to crack a nut (or maybe using the Hubble telescope to read a street sign). Seasoned devs recognize this as a classic over-engineering pitfall – capturing or outputting far more detail than is useful. We’ve seen logs or database fields with unnecessary precision, and we know it’s often just floating-point noise. The comic exaggerates it brilliantly to make the point clear.

Let’s talk about that final entry, because it’s the kicker that made every senior engineer smirk: 28.523451782812884°N, 80.683094715263558°W followed by “Either you’re handing out raw floating point variables, or you’ve built a database to track individual atoms. In either case, please stop.” This line is basically saying: if you see someone giving a coordinate with 15+ decimal places, something’s wrong (and it’s hilariously pointless). The two possibilities the comic offers are both jabs at bad practices or crazy projects:

  • Handing out raw floating point variables: This implies the developer didn’t format the output and just dumped the full double precision number. Many of us have encountered this – for example, an API that returns GPS coordinates like 51.509865, -0.11809200000000001 (notice all the trailing junk digits). That’s a sign that the code took an in-memory floating-point value and converted it to text naively. It’s a serialization issue (DataFormatsAndSerialization gone wrong), because those extra digits often come from the binary to decimal conversion and don’t actually improve the location info. A savvy developer would round or format that value (say to 6 or 7 decimals) before returning it. The comic’s “please stop” is exactly what you’d mutter during a code review upon seeing coord = lat.toString() without any formatting. It’s a gentle roast of those who don’t consider significance and just present data raw.

  • Built a database to track individual atoms: This is obviously hyperbole – nobody has a real-world database identifying each atom’s position on Earth by lat/lon (at least we hope not!). This scenario lampoons extreme over-engineering. Imagine a geo-database entry for every atom with 18-digit coordinates – utterly impractical, yet theoretically that’s the level of detail those coordinates suggest. It’s also hinting at the idea that if you truly needed that many decimals, you must be doing something as crazy as atomic-scale tracking. For senior devs, it evokes the absurd projects we’ve heard of (or were asked to do) that go way beyond YAGNI (You Aren’t Gonna Need It). It’s the database equivalent of using a nuclear-powered laser to cut a sandwich: yes, it can do that, but why would you? The comic is essentially saying: no normal application should require this level of detail, and if it does, maybe reconsider your approach.

To drive home the scale of how pointless those extra digits are, consider a quick reference that seasoned engineers might know (or at least appreciate when spelled out):

Decimal Places (Lat/Lon) ~Approximate Precision Real-world Meaning
0 – e.g. 28°N ~111 km (±60+ miles) Huge area (bigger than a city) – “space-related” (broad region)
1 – 28.5°N ~11 km (±6 miles) City level – you’ve pinpointed a town or city
2 – 28.52°N ~1.1 km (0.7 mi) Neighborhood or village size area
3 – 28.523°N ~111 m (360 ft) Street or block – a cul-de-sac fits in this range
4 – 28.5234°N ~11 m (36 ft) House-level – e.g. a single house corner or backyard
5 – 28.52345°N ~1.1 m (3.6 ft) Person-level – about the span of a room or a person’s position
6 – 28.523451°N ~0.11 m (11 cm) Object-level – size of a book page, good for finding Waldo on it
9 – 28.523451782°N ~0.00011 m (0.11 mm) Insect/grain-level – a tiny sand grain or an ant’s movement
15 – 28.523451782812884°N ~0.0000000001 m (1e-10 m) Atom-level – smaller than a cell, approaching atomic scale

As you can see, after about 5-6 decimal places, we’re past the point of useful accuracy for almost any normal scenario. A typical GPS device (without augmentation) might be accurate to 5-6 decimals at best. Anything more is just not reliably measurable on the ground – it’s false precision. Yet the meme shows someone using up to 15 decimals, which crosses into pure ludicrousness (hence “please stop” 😄).

The reason this resonates with experienced devs is because it illustrates a classic engineering insight: just because you can provide more precision, doesn’t mean you should. Whether it’s coordinates, timing, or significant figures in calculations, we often have to choose an appropriate level of detail. Over-precision can lead to confusion, wasted storage, and even errors. The inclusion of the datum joke also tickles the veteran funny bone – it’s a detail only someone who’s dealt with GIS or mapping would catch. It implies that the person giving these ultra-precise coords is somewhat incompetent: they fussed over extra decimals but forgot a basic requirement (like specifying WGS84 or another reference). It’s like someone giving you a super-detailed plan with one huge missing piece – a scenario many senior devs have seen in specs or code (“implemented an elaborate system, but forgot to handle time zones” vibes).

Finally, the tone of the comic – especially that last line – mirrors how a senior might playfully chastise a junior: “In either case, please stop.” It’s a gentle, humorous rebuke. We laugh because we’ve been on both sides: either the one inadvertently outputting a ridiculous number of decimals, or the one facepalming at it. This meme encapsulates a shared understanding in development and data science circles: be mindful of your precision. More is not always better; sometimes it’s just comically useless.

Level 4: Precision Overkill

At the most granular level, this comic highlights the limits of floating-point precision and the absurdity of too much detail in geospatial data. In computing, a latitude/longitude is often stored as a 64-bit binary floating-point number (a double in many languages). A double’s precision is about 15–16 decimal digits, meaning any digits beyond that are essentially noise. Notice the last coordinate pair has about 15 decimal places – that’s basically the raw double precision spilling out! When you see something like 28.523451782812884°N, 80.683094715263558°W, it’s a clue that someone might have dumped a raw floating-point value without rounding. Those extra digits do not equate to actual accuracy; they’re artifacts of binary representation. (Fun fact: a double has a 52-bit mantissa, giving ~15 decimal digits of precision. So printing a full double can produce these long strings of digits – an overdose of precision that doesn’t improve DataAccuracy.)

Beyond the computing aspect, there’s a fundamental physical limit being poked at. Each additional decimal place in coordinates narrows the pinpointed location by a factor of 10. On Earth, 1 degree of latitude is about ~111 km north-south. So 0.1° is ~11 km, 0.000001° is ~11 cm, and 0.000000000001° (10^-12) is around 0.11 mm. Pushing to 10^-15 degrees gets you to sub-nanometer scales (~0.0001 mm, roughly an atom’s width!). The comic’s final panel jokingly reaches this “track individual atoms” level of detail. It’s tongue-in-cheek, because in reality Earth coordinates aren’t defined meaningfully at atomic scales – tectonic plate motion, atmospheric distortion, and instrument error swamp any attempt to locate something that precisely. By the time you’re dividing the globe into nanometers, you’re bumping into quantum physics (Heisenberg would be chuckling – you can’t pinpoint a thing’s position that exactly without everything getting fuzzy). In short, the Precision vs Reality gap becomes astronomical (or rather, subatomic) once you go past a certain number of decimal places.

Another advanced detail is the mention of missing datum information. A datum is the geodetic model of Earth used for the coordinates – essentially the reference map. Common datums like WGS84 or NAD83 define the shape of the Earth and the origin for lat/lon. If you don’t specify the datum, extremely precise coordinates lose meaning because different datums can shift locations by tens of meters. The comic humorously says “since you didn't include datum information, we can't tell who” (which person in the room you meant). This digs at a real mapping nuance: if you’re quoting coordinates to identify a specific person-sized spot, you must specify the reference system, otherwise those ultra-fine coordinates could point to a completely different person under a different Earth model. It’s a nerdy detail that geospatial engineers care about – and here it’s played for laughs because someone obsessed enough to include 7 decimal places should also know to include the datum (but they didn’t).

From a DataFormats perspective, the comic mocks how naive serialization of coordinates can lead to non-sensical precision. If a developer just converts a binary float to a string without formatting, you get an extreme number of digits (like in the last row). Proper formatting would round those to a sensible length (no one needs 18 decimal places of a lat/lon in JSON or CSV!). Also, storing such over-precise coordinates in Databases is a form of over-engineering. Most geospatial databases or GIS systems limit coordinate precision (often ~6 decimal places for latitude/longitude, which is ~10 cm resolution). If someone actually built a database to track individual atoms by Earth coordinates, as the comic jests, it would be an insanely large and pointless data model. You’d have trillions of entries and still have the problem of atoms not staying put (they jiggle around!). In other words, the comic underscores a core CS_Fundamentals lesson: more digits do not always mean more accuracy. There’s a hard limit on meaningful precision given hardware (floating-point limits) and reality (physical and geodetic limits). The punchline “please stop” in the final panel is basically the universe (and the comic’s author) telling us engineers that beyond a certain point, those extra decimals are pure overkill.

Description

This is a single-panel comic, in the style of XKCD, titled 'WHAT THE NUMBER OF DIGITS IN YOUR COORDINATES MEANS'. It presents a table with two columns: 'LAT/LON PRECISION' and 'MEANING'. The table humorously illustrates the consequence of adding more decimal places to geographic coordinates. It starts with low precision (28°N, 80°W) meaning 'YOU'RE PROBABLY DOING SOMETHING SPACE-RELATED', and with each row, the precision increases, and the meaning becomes more specific and absurd. It moves from a city, to a neighborhood, to a corner of a house, to a person in a room, to 'Waldo on a page', and even 'a specific sand grain'. The final entry, with many decimal places, concludes: 'EITHER YOU'RE HANDING OUT RAW FLOATING POINT VARIABLES, OR YOU'VE BUILT A DATABASE TO TRACK INDIVIDUAL ATOMS. IN EITHER CASE, PLEASE STOP.' The joke targets developers who misuse or misunderstand floating-point precision, a common source of bugs and inefficiencies, by showing the ridiculous real-world implications of having too much data that offers no real value

Comments

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Anonymous ★ Top Pick The difference between a senior and a junior dev is the junior uses a double for coordinates, while the senior knows the third decimal place is already more accurate than the project's requirements
  1. Anonymous ★ Top Pick

    The difference between a senior and a junior dev is the junior uses a double for coordinates, while the senior knows the third decimal place is already more accurate than the project's requirements

  2. Anonymous

    Marketing wanted 17-decimal lat/lon so we could “hyper-target” users - it’s all good until PostGIS pinpoints an electron while the GPS still dumps everyone at Null Island

  3. Anonymous

    After 20 years of arguing about whether to store coordinates as DECIMAL(10,7) or FLOAT, we finally compromised and stored them as VARCHAR(255) - because nothing says 'enterprise architecture' like tracking individual quarks in a string field with no validation

  4. Anonymous

    This perfectly captures the moment when your location API returns coordinates precise enough to identify which electron in your phone's GPS chip is currently oscillating - because nothing says 'production-ready' quite like storing lat/long with more decimal places than there are atoms in the observable universe. It's the geospatial equivalent of using a 128-bit UUID to track your three users

  5. Anonymous

    If your API returns 15‑decimal lat/lon, you didn’t build maps - you shipped Double.toString() with a side of GDPR

  6. Anonymous

    Precision creep in lat/lon: starts with 'neighborhood targeting,' ends with a DynamoDB partition key per quark and SREs paging at Planck length

  7. Anonymous

    Shipping lat/long with 15 decimals and no EPSG is precision theater - sure, we can pinpoint a molecule; we just can’t agree whether it’s in 4326 or 3857

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