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AI Opinions: The Power User vs. The Principled Opponent

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A two-panel meme using a scene from the movie '500 Days of Summer' where two characters, a man and a woman, are in a record store. In the top panel, the man says, 'i hate chatgpt,' and the woman replies, 'me too,' as they share a look of mutual understanding. In the bottom panel, the dialogue is replaced by logos and stickers indicating their true, conflicting reasons. Over the man are logos for AI-related tools and platforms: Zapier (automation), Perplexity AI (conversational AI), Hugging Face (AI community), and Poe by Quora (AI chatbot aggregator). Over the woman are various stickers with anti-AI art sentiments, such as 'THEFT, ISN'T ART,' 'ARTISTS AGAINST AI ART,' and 'USING A.I. IS LOSER BEHAVIOR.' The meme's humor comes from the dramatic irony of their agreement. The man, an AI power-user, dislikes ChatGPT likely because he prefers more specialized or advanced AI tools. The woman, representing the creative community's backlash, dislikes it on ethical grounds, viewing generative AI as harmful to artists. It perfectly captures a major schism in the tech and creative communities, where surface-level opinions on a specific tool can mask deeply divided underlying philosophies

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Anonymous ★ Top Pick He hates ChatGPT because its context window is too small; she hates it because its training data was too large
  1. Anonymous ★ Top Pick

    He hates ChatGPT because its context window is too small; she hates it because its training data was too large

  2. Anonymous

    Sprint ritual: complain that “AI will never replace real engineers,” then merge the PR Copilot wrote, auto-document it with ChatGPT, and let Claude summarize the retro - artisan software, handcrafted by three different LLMs

  3. Anonymous

    Even diffusion models with their stolen training data and artists wielding copyright claims can unite in their disdain for ChatGPT - turns out the real hallucination was thinking any of us would escape the prompt engineering industrial complex unscathed

  4. Anonymous

    The classic developer move: publicly denouncing ChatGPT while your terminal history shows 47 Claude API calls, your design folder is full of Midjourney outputs, and your commit messages are suspiciously well-formatted. It's not hypocrisy - it's having 'nuanced opinions' about which probabilistic text generator deserves your token budget this sprint

  5. Anonymous

    Two nodes with different state machines both commit value 'hate_chatgpt' - congrats, you achieved Byzantine consensus via branding

  6. Anonymous

    “I hate ChatGPT” is an overloaded function - architects mean “Claude/Mistral + RAG + Perplexity to dodge hallucinations and vendor lock‑in”; artists mean “stop training on my art.”

  7. Anonymous

    ChatGPT hate unites us like a monolith migration plan - until Claude's context window whispers sweet CAP theorem compliance

  8. @LastStranger 1y

    I really understand artists, that hate AI. It's really situation from Detroit: become human, where androids kicked out humans from factories, because they work better. You learnt how to draw for 10-40 years, you finally good at that and can live without worries, the biggest might be deadline. And all, that you learn for years now is needless. You can start think in 2 ways, your whole life is needless and AI is bullshit

    1. @backendotnet_124 1y

      Or you can adopt AI to your needs and use it as a tool (as it is)... increase your output and keep working with higher, lets say, KPI)

      1. @LastStranger 1y

        In the drawing main problem that you can't add AI directly, like in programming, because you will be only bridge from buyer to AI. I think most of artists use AI for references, but it don't helps in drawing

      2. @Algoinde 1y

        If you draw to make money, you will integrate AI and just carry on If you've been drawing as an artistic expression and to connect with others, you will still continue to draw because someone else churning out slop doesn't make your work less valuable

        1. @Algoinde 1y

          But it doesn't have to be from an artist standpoint. There's been enough corporate slop art, and now I'm forced to see even more slop, but not even human-made

          1. @mrYakov 1y

            Cleanup your information sources

            1. @Algoinde 1y

              The only time i run into it is when googling something go images, 70% is slop now depending on the query the feeling is simiar to having to watch your step on the streets (or just don't go out) because there's dog poop everywhere

            2. @Dark_Embrace 1y

              You can't run from reality, Neo

          2. @Dark_Embrace 1y

            😁

            1. @Algoinde 1y

              nice anti-buy markers

      3. @sysoevyarik 1y

        "Only goal matters" mindset 🤡

        1. @backendotnet_124 1y

          Can't see any relation/coincidence with my message 😅

          1. @sysoevyarik 1y

            >adopt ai to your needs The more you replace your work with tools, the less "your" work became. If you see nothing wrong here, it's because for you matters what you trying to achieve, and not how.

            1. @tumut 1y

              then the last time any programmer's work actually was theirs was when they had to manually flip switches on the computers to run it

              1. @RiedleroD 1y

                someone made the switches. it's collaboration all the way down. the difference with AI is that it's trying to think for you

                1. @tumut 1y

                  And someone made the AI. I don't think that's the real issue. It's not even that AI tries to "think" for us. We let contact lists do the "remembering" for us all the time. Even GPS usage is having a detrimental effect on our brains. The real problem is slop, which happens whenever you make a technology widely available to the masses. The whole issue people have with AI boils down to elitism, and I don't mind being an elitist but most won't admit it

                  1. @RiedleroD 1y

                    people are rapidly losing the ability to think critically because they've been conditioned to believe what the big AI man says. I'm fine with usage of tools, but turning your brain of and letting the internet man take over goes too far. neither GPS nor a contact list try to think for us. some websites do, but 1. I don't like that either and 2. we have already seen the terrible effects of letting "the algorithm" pick what we're reading and watching. This is not only true for tiktok, but for youtube and all the others as well. Twitter shoves you down the alt right pipeline? years squandered. youtube too? possibly a lifetime of hate and misery. until we as a society understand that technology that tries to take away the thinking from people is bad, we're going to have to deal with those consequences

                    1. @tumut 1y

                      This is hardly a new thing, and you're not as immune to it as you may think. Socrates made pretty much the same criticism about writing, by the way (and in fact I agree with him). "Their trust in writing, produced by external characters which are no part of themselves, will discourage the use of their own memory within them. You have invented an elixir not of memory, but of reminding; and you offer your pupils the appearance of wisdom, not true wisdom, for they will read many things without instruction and will therefore seem to know many things, when they are for the most part ignorant and hard to get along with, since they are not wise, but only appear wise."

                      1. @RiedleroD 1y

                        the thing with writing and memory is that you just need to asess where the writing came from and how believeable it is - same as with your actual memory, in fact. the difference with AI is that it takes away the user's choice - unless of course the user uses it critically. But the amount of people blindly trusting it as infallible is fucking terrible, and the fact that companies do everything in their power to lean into that should be a crime.

                        1. @tumut 1y

                          Much the same thing with AI and writing. You can blindly trust either or verify either. It has never been easier to feed people mass propaganda ever since literacy became widespread

                          1. @RiedleroD 1y

                            because of laws and norms. AI is currently completely lawless and that's why it's so harmful. I'm sure laws will spring up eventually, but until then, AI is harmful and I want nothing to do with it. …not to mention all the theft of intellectual property, but that's a different topic for a different time…

                            1. @tumut 1y

                              I can't wait to see what our oligarchs will draft to regulate us, I mean, AI 😀

                              1. @RiedleroD 1y

                                idk what country you live in, but I'm confident that where I live will regulate AI well enough

                                1. @deadgnom32 1y

                                  I'm curious where people still have oligarchs besides of Russia.

                                  1. @RiedleroD 1y

                                    usa

                                    1. @deadgnom32 1y

                                      ah. yes. I think it's funny, that eu invests 500M€ into recruiting US scientists while US spends gigalions on training AI scientists, which cost them 30K$/month, while being paid for their usage 20K$/month, while a human scientist costs like 1/8 of it.

                                      1. @RiedleroD 1y

                                        …not sure what your point is

                                        1. @deadgnom32 1y

                                          they played high on AI neglecting human resources, we went a slow steady path. now they are flooded with ai generated problems with extremely high costs. attack the unis. while we get more efficient human brains and through regulations we are being kept safe from rogue ai startups.

  9. @mrYakov 1y

    Professional artist still outmatch ai. But for them ai can save a lot of time on routine tasks, so i dont see problem there.

    1. @backendotnet_124 1y

      Exactly what I said above) thanks)

  10. @ZgGPuo8dZef58K6hxxGVj3Z2 1y

    Obviously because he hates it and doesn’t use it. The icons are there to show what other AI services he uses

  11. @H3R3T1C 1y

    well, in art... the artists, all of them, theft in somehow, because the inspiration is based on their experience on live....

  12. @karanokyoukai 1y

    https://faroutmagazine.co.uk/hayao-miyazaki-on-ai-utterly-disgusted/

    1. @kitbot256 1y

      Makes sense. The only option is enabling "do not show me AI-generated crap" wherever it is available; and avoid using sites where this setting is not possible or marking is not enforced, because every search result is filled with garbage.

    2. @sysoevyarik 1y

      He was talking about one particular use of ai, not about whole situation

  13. @SheepGod 1y

    Same

  14. @backendotnet_124 1y

    Hammer did not replace builders... The same thing here... AI could generate possible solutions but the final desicion still on engineer That was my point... not just achieve the result but make this result maintainable and stable using AI as support

    1. @TheFloofyFloof 1y

      Well right now AI isn't a solution to anything meaningful. The entire LLM market isn't useful yet

    2. @sysoevyarik 1y

      Ah yes Hammers that can build house on their own without any inspection by human. I can write more detailed: if some tool makes something to achieve 10 times easier, it makes result 10 times less valuable, but at the same time it gives you possibility to make stuff that 10 times more complex in the same time. People who write in (for example) in Python not "less programmers" than c programmers because they write in easier language. They solve harder tasks on higher level of abstraction. But situation for vibe-"coding" and ai-"art" is different. Instead of making something 10 times better you just spend 10 times less time actually doing work (or generate 10 times more slop)

  15. @backendotnet_124 1y

    Disagree... AI could help generate ideas and write templates for simple solutions My service has fully designed UI by AI... all related logic regarding state management, api calls, security and so on - fully on me but design part - AI support. Design != architecture... and AI helps me a lot to avoid spending money for design freelancers for example... my service is not so popular yet to pay for outsource 😅

    1. @TheFloofyFloof 1y

      So you don't own the copyright for your UI design? What about icons and logos?

      1. @backendotnet_124 1y

        As I know, ShadCN components could be used for commercial usage... the same as lucide react for Icons)

    2. @SheepGod 1y

      out of curiosity what do ya use for that? could use some sketches made to use as basis

      1. @backendotnet_124 1y

        Claude, Gemini 2.5, free tier of ChatGPT Never tried design smth by existing scetches, but I know some models (usually Chinese) can do it

  16. @patsany_horosh_mne_v_dm_pisat 1y

    honestly tho, I'm kinda scared

  17. @backendotnet_124 1y

    I did not see the tool yet that can build whole "house" (enterprise product) without human inspection

    1. @deandon 1y

      human inspection is more of a "validation" that you need to pass, not bypass

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