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Two Paths, Same Storm: Who Writes Code and Who Reviews It

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A cartoon meme using the 'two paths diverging to spooky castles' format: a small boy in a blue shirt stands at a fork in a dirt path with a wooden signpost, both branches leading to dark, lightning-struck gothic castles under a purple stormy sky. The left path is labeled: 'Have AI write all the code and you only write tests and do code review to make sure it did it correctly.' The right path: 'Write the code yourself and AI does the menial things like tests and code review.' The meme captures the unresolved dilemma of AI-assisted development workflows - both divisions of labor lead to equally ominous destinations, since either the human becomes a full-time reviewer of machine output or trusts the machine to verify human output

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Anonymous ★ Top Pick Either you review the AI's code or the AI reviews yours - both castles are haunted, but only one ghost gets sued when prod goes down
  1. Anonymous ★ Top Pick

    Either you review the AI's code or the AI reviews yours - both castles are haunted, but only one ghost gets sued when prod goes down

  2. Anonymous

    Either road reinvents pair programming, except one partner hallucinates and the other writes assertions about it.

  3. @vlonedevller 2mo

    Code and test write AI btw

  4. @Arthur_Arslan 2mo

    Yeah, we go full AI

  5. @shacotustra 2mo

    Make ai do both

    1. dev_meme 2mo

      https://t.me/dev_meme/8021

  6. @RiedleroD 2mo

    become a farmer in rural austria

    1. @tema3210 2mo

      How good or bad is it?

      1. @RiedleroD 2mo

        idk

    2. @arseny_chebyshev 2mo

      Appealing as ease for mind from familiar problems, whole other bag of problems by itself

      1. @RiedleroD 2mo

        I live in rural Austria, so I know how it is. there are no easy lives in this world. But I'd take it over IT any day of the week if I could

        1. @RiedleroD 2mo

          minor correction: I have lived in, and will live in rural Austria. currently I mostly live in an urban center near the rural place I'm talking about

        2. @callofvoid0 2mo

          How does it feel farming on the outskirts of the Alps sending crops with plane to companies that have ordered online?

          1. @RiedleroD 2mo

            planes? that would never be cost-effective the reality of austria is that there isn't much uninhabited land, especially in farmable areas. "rural austria" means you have 20-200 other people living in your immediate area, and your crops are delivered to local stores - and if you have surplus after that, you get them transported via trucks or rail.

            1. @callofvoid0 2mo

              well, that was partially the ideal ignore the plane part

              1. @RiedleroD 2mo

                well then you just have to get lucky to be born into a farmer family or have literal millions of EUR to buy someone else's estate. alternatively you can be a farm helper … which is just normal hard labor

                1. @callofvoid0 2mo

                  wtf is it that expensive to own land?

                  1. @RiedleroD 2mo

                    yeah

                  2. @arseny_chebyshev 2mo

                    Mortgage rates are not that bad across EU though, comparatively

                    1. @RiedleroD 2mo

                      austria is quite expensive when it comes to land costs, comparatively

                      1. @arseny_chebyshev 2mo

                        Price or rate?

                        1. @RiedleroD 2mo

                          price, I don't know anyone renting land

                          1. @RiedleroD 2mo

                            or er, mortgaging it? I don't know how all that works

  7. @Daonifur 2mo

    Furry gaming chair tbf

  8. @callofvoid0 2mo

    come to Iran and you will no longer have access to internet or AI so you won't need to code anymore

    1. @RiedleroD 2mo

      I also won't have access to acceptable healthcare, so

      1. @callofvoid0 2mo

        Well, this one you will have access to, especially about fertillity stuff

        1. @RiedleroD 2mo

          fertility stuff?

          1. @callofvoid0 2mo

            artificial, birth thingy ivf increasing chance of giving birth those stuff

            1. @RiedleroD 2mo

              ah. well I was mostly talking about HRT and other gender-affirming medical stuff

              1. @callofvoid0 2mo

                Ah, it is possible as well, so long as the... ah... court thingy confirms the need to change gender

                1. @RiedleroD 2mo

                  aha. sure. and then I'll still be in an intensely transphobic country, no?

                  1. @callofvoid0 2mo

                    yes that's the part that voids the rest of it

                    1. @RiedleroD 2mo

                      welp there you go

                      1. @RiedleroD 2mo

                        that's like the nr1 reason I can't (or don't want to, depending on severity) go to most countries

              2. @tema3210 2mo

                Did you do f -> m transition or m -> f one?

                1. @RiedleroD 2mo

                  m→f I mean, my username is "lisa"… I wouldn't use my deadname online

  9. @arseny_chebyshev 2mo

    If mortgage/credit rate is on par with inflation or better yet below it, you make a downpayment and then just pay month to month as if it was rent, but the only difference is that you share ownership rights now, which means if something goes wrong - you can sell it at now higher price, beat up percentages and maybe even past payments, which basically allows you to live semi-free there just from downpayment. Of course it's not always this straightforward but hope you get the idea

    1. @RiedleroD 2mo

      ah well, I do know my parents took out a loan from the bank to build their house. They recently finished paying it off (much to the dismay of the bank, because they were faster than planned with it) I have no clue what the rates on that were

      1. @callofvoid0 2mo

        do you always have to build the house yourselves?

        1. @RiedleroD 2mo

          no, there's companies building houses and then offering them for sale. my parents just wanted something semi-custom (ofc they still paid a company to build it for them, this wasn't a "putting the bricks yourself" situation)

    2. @callofvoid0 2mo

      so after the mortgage payment to bank is done, you own the land right? how long would this take usually?

      1. @RiedleroD 2mo

        in the case of my parents it was around 8 years

        1. @callofvoid0 2mo

          was the loan just for the build costs or for buying the land included?

          1. @RiedleroD 2mo

            I don't know

          2. @DerKnerd 2mo

            I bought a house from my parents and paid 250k € for land and house. The monthly rate to my mom is 800 €. I am in Germany in a city with around 100k citizens

    3. @callofvoid0 2mo

      I couldn't follow from the part where you sell the house to someone else even with the monthly paybacks left yet you live there

      1. @arseny_chebyshev 2mo

        When you sell, you sell at price that will allow you to cover rest of credit+interest. If you put price even higher - you retain those payments you've already made, basically leaving you with free months of living there in the past, just from downpayment. Bank has received whole credit body so there's no question to you from them, and new owner chooses his own bank and now it has nothing to do with you.

  10. @DavidGarciaCat 2mo

    Left, no doubt! I don’t trust AI for writing tests or performing code reviews unless I already know exactly what should be checked (aka, fallback to human) I prefer to define unit test expectations explicitly with mocks because that guarantees the generated code must match the behaviour, contracts, and assertions I defined beforehand Also, TDD literally means the Test is Driving the Development, not the opposite. The AI agent should solve a failing test by satisfying predefined expectations, not inventing its own interpretation of the requirements BDD is also a valid approach to achieve the same goal, but… What worries me the most is Gherkin-style abstraction, because in practice we’re often just describing a context, an action, and an expected outcome at a very high level, while the internal implementation can still be an absolute mess

  11. @lambda_coolusername 2mo

    is this supposed to be a choice between a lesser of two evils?

  12. Deleted Account 2mo

    Do nothing, and keep on sleeping

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