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Security Post #5685 · source on Telegram

Reverse Engineering: Choose Your Watchlist Flavor

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This meme uses the popular 'Inside You There Are Two Wolves' format, which depicts a black wolf and a white wolf staring each other down in front of a full moon. The top text reads, 'INSIDE YOU THERE ARE TWO WOLVES'. Text overlaid on the black wolf says, 'ONE USES GHIDRA', while the text on the white wolf says, 'THE OTHER USES IDA PRO'. The punchline is delivered in large, white text at the bottom: 'BOTH ARE ON A GOVERMENT WATCHLIST' (with 'government' misspelled). The joke satirizes the world of software reverse engineering. Ghidra (a free tool from the NSA) and IDA Pro (the expensive industry standard) are the two premier tools for this work. The humor lies in the fact that while practitioners might argue over which tool is better, the very nature of their work - analyzing software at a deep, low level - is inherently suspicious to authorities, regardless of the tools used. It's a nod to the paranoia and occupational hazards of the cybersecurity and vulnerability research fields

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Anonymous ★ Top Pick The real choice isn't between Ghidra and IDA Pro, it's whether you prefer your three-letter agency backdoor to be open-source or proprietary
  1. Anonymous ★ Top Pick

    The real choice isn't between Ghidra and IDA Pro, it's whether you prefer your three-letter agency backdoor to be open-source or proprietary

  2. Anonymous

    Whichever wolf you feed, the SOC still files the same suspicious-binary ticket - call it dual-boot paranoia

  3. Anonymous

    The real question is which wolf spent three weeks reversing a binary only to discover it was just a hello world program with 47 layers of obfuscation and anti-debugging tricks added by a bored intern

  4. Anonymous

    The real joke is that after spending 40 hours reverse engineering a binary with either tool, you realize the original developer just copy-pasted Stack Overflow code anyway - but at least now three-letter agencies know you have excellent taste in disassemblers

  5. Anonymous

    Choosing between Ghidra and IDA Pro just decides whether Compliance or Procurement opens the ticket; either way the SIEM thinks you're the IOC

  6. Anonymous

    Ghidra: free NSA love. IDA: premium polish. Both: pre-approved for Langley fan mail

  7. Anonymous

    Compile Ghidra or expense IDA Pro - either choice summons the SOC when EDR spots ida64.exe on your laptop

  8. @Aqualon 2y

    i use cheat engine

    1. @AlexKart20129 2y

      party van is on its way to you

    2. @ZgGPuo8dZef58K6hxxGVj3Z2 2y

      It’s not even the same thing… Cheat engine is not a decompiler nor reverse engineering tool. Finding out which addresses values live in the runtime is not reverse engineering especially in managed runtime. See replies

      1. @Aqualon 2y

        Cheat engin is way more than just memory reader/writer. It has other features like disassembler, pointerscan, debugger and a lot more. So i would say it is reverse engineering tool.

        1. @ZgGPuo8dZef58K6hxxGVj3Z2 2y

          Okay disassembler is new to me. Never seen that before in cheat engine.

          1. dev_meme 2y

            This is not widely known but you should really check features list of cheat engine, it’s a huge monster tool

            1. @ZgGPuo8dZef58K6hxxGVj3Z2 2y

              I will at some point thanks. Bth I am switching away from desktop windows it seems like. Too much shit recently and w10 is not supported for a long while if it goes as planned.

        2. @ercolebellucci 2y

          i used to use that on s4league a game of 100 years ago

  9. valentyn 2y

    cz noone buys actually ida pro ?

    1. @SamsonovAnton 2y

      I'm just a poor boy, I use OllyDbg.

      1. @Assarbad 2y

        Why not x64dbg?

        1. @prirai 2y

          This

    2. @Assarbad 2y

      Uhm ... certainly those newbie questions like "I'm new to reverse engineering, how do I get ... done in IDA Pro with Hex-Rays" always make me wonder about that. I've met a guy who didn't have a clue but plenty of money and purchased Sourcer back in the day. But Sourcer seems outright cheap compared to IDA Pro with the Hex-Rays plugin, for a tool and process of which I have no clue as a newbie. Oh well ...

    3. @Eco_azul 2y

      I think a guy bought it. He is the same guy who paid for WinRar.

      1. @SamsonovAnton 2y

        I paid for WinRAR as well, but I'm definitely not the same guy.

  10. @Assarbad 2y

    Generally I try to use the tool that best suits the job.

  11. @Iffycat 2y

    Real chads use radare2 😎

  12. @prirai 2y

    Btw I use all three, still learning

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