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The Senior Developer's Job Hunt vs. Corporate Hiring Hoops
Career HR Post #3896, on Nov 2, 2021 in TG

The Senior Developer's Job Hunt vs. Corporate Hiring Hoops

Why is this Career HR meme funny?

Level 1: Jumping Through Hoops

Imagine you want to play on a soccer team. You go to the first coach, and he says, “Sure, you can join, but first you have to run 5 laps, solve two puzzles about soccer rules, do 50 push-ups, and then maybe I’ll let you on the team.” That’s a lot of work just to start playing! Then you meet a second coach of another team, and she says, “Oh, you want to play? Great, we have one quick tryout game today. If you play well, you’re on the team.” You only have to show up once and do the thing you’re actually there to do (play soccer). Naturally, you join the second coach’s team after that single tryout because it’s simple and fair. Now imagine the first coach finds out and starts yelling, “Nooo! You were supposed to do all my challenges to prove you really wanted to be on my team!” It’s pretty funny, right? The first coach expected you to jump through all those hoops (do a bunch of unnecessary tasks) to “earn” your spot, but you took an easier and faster offer instead. The first coach is acting like a kid throwing a tantrum because his complicated plan didn’t work. In the same way, the meme is joking that some companies make getting a job way too hard, and then they’re shocked and upset when a good player (the developer) chooses a team that treats them better. It’s like saying: why do ten difficult things to get a prize when someone else will give you the prize after just one fair try? The silly anger of the first coach (or company) is what makes us laugh, because they had a chance to keep a great person, but they messed it up by demanding too much.

Level 2: Interview Loops & Hoops

This four-panel comic uses the popular Chad vs. Wojak meme characters to poke fun at overly long interview processes. Let’s break down what’s happening in each part and explain the terms:

  • Panel 1 (Top-Left): We see a drawn profile of a blonde, bearded developer (the “Chad” character). He confidently says, “I’m looking for a new job.” This sets the scene: a developer is on the job hunt. The Chad meme figure typically represents someone who is confident, capable, and straightforward – here it’s the job-seeking developer who knows his worth.

  • Panel 2 (Top-Right): A pale faceless recruiter (a variation of the Wojak character) responds with a long list of requirements: “Sure. Just need you to take 2 assessments, a tech screen, then we’ll want 3 interviews then maybe we’ll consider you.” This is a caricature of a typical TechnicalInterviewProcess at some companies. Let’s clarify those terms:

    • Assessment: In hiring, an assessment is a test or assignment given to candidates. The recruiter is asking for 2 assessments, which likely means the candidate must complete two separate tests. For example, a company might send a coding quiz on a platform like HackerRank as the first assessment, and then maybe a more involved take-home project as the second. It’s basically homework or exams for the job application. Two assessments back-to-back is quite a lot – hence it feels like an assessments overload.
    • Tech screen: Short for technical screening, this is usually a short initial interview (often via phone or video call) with a technical person. In a tech screen, an engineer or technical recruiter will ask the candidate basic questions or have them solve a simple coding problem live, just to verify the candidate actually has the skills they claim. It’s like a preliminary filter before the longer interviews. So after the two tests, the recruiter wants a live technical Q&A session.
    • 3 interviews: After the tests and the screening, the recruiter is saying they want the candidate to go through three more interviews. In many companies, that could mean a series of meetings possibly all on one “on-site” interview day (even if remote). For instance: one interview might be a deeper coding or algorithm challenge, the second could be a system design or architecture discussion, and the third might be a behavioral or culture-fit interview with a manager or HR. Three interviews in addition to everything prior means the candidate would meet multiple people and answer questions for hours. It’s a multi_stage_interview_loop indeed – jumping from one interviewer to the next.

    The kicker is the phrase “then maybe we’ll consider you.” After all those steps, the recruiter isn’t even promising a job offer – only that maybe the company will consider the candidate for the position. This indicates a very selective or cautious hiring approach. For the candidate, that’s a lot of hoops to jump through without any guarantee.

  • Panel 3 (Bottom-Left): The same developer (Chad) responds calmly: “Nevermind, I accepted a job at another company that offered what I wanted after 1 interview.” This is the twist and the punchline of the story. Instead of agreeing to the long process, the developer basically says, “No thanks, I’ve already got a better deal elsewhere.” He had another company in his pipeline that moved much faster – just one interview and they gave him what he wanted (likely the role, salary, or benefits he was looking for). So this other company’s HiringProcess was swift and efficient: one and done. The developer’s reply highlights that he values his time and knows he has options. It also subtly implies that the second company respected him more by not making him go through a marathon. After a single interview, they were confident enough to hire him (and presumably meet his conditions, like a good salary or remote work or whatever he wanted). This is a stark contrast to the first company’s drawn-out approach.

  • Panel 4 (Bottom-Right): Here we see a pink, screaming Wojak face, mouth agape and tears flying – basically a tantrum. This character represents the first company’s reaction (the recruiter or hiring manager) to the developer’s decision. The character screams: “NOOOO!!!!!!!!! YOU WERE SUPPOSED TO JUMP THROUGH HOOPS TO PROVE YOUR WORTHINESS!” This line is deliberately over-the-top, sounding like an entitled, angry outburst. It’s as if the company is saying, “How dare you, the candidate, not go through our tough process! You’re supposed to show us you deserve this job!” The phrasing “prove your worthiness” makes it feel like the company thought it was doing the candidate a favor by even considering them, and that the candidate should submit to whatever challenges they set. This exaggerated reaction is meant to be funny because it’s like a child throwing a fit when they don’t get their way. The company expected the developer to patiently jump through all their hoops, but reality didn’t match that expectation.

The overall humor and message of the meme becomes clear: some hiring processes are so excessive that they drive candidates away. The company in the comic created an obstacle course (lots of interviews and tests) expecting any serious candidate to endure it to “prove” themselves. But the developer exercised his choice to go elsewhere, to a place that didn’t make him go through an ordeal. The first company’s anger is ironic – they’re upset at their own loss, but it’s a situation they caused by being too slow and putting up too many hurdles.

For a junior developer or someone new to tech interviews, this meme is highlighting a real issue in the industry. Many companies, especially in tech, have what we call “interview loops” or “interview gauntlets.” These are multi-step processes where you might:

  • Start with an online coding assessment (a test of your programming skills, usually timed).
  • Then do a technical phone screen (a call where you answer technical questions or solve a simple problem live).
  • Then proceed to a series of in-person or video interviews (often 2-5 rounds back-to-back) with various team members. Each round might focus on something: one on algorithms/coding, one on system design, one on past experience or behavioral questions, etc.

Companies do this to evaluate candidates thoroughly on different aspects. However, from the candidate’s perspective, it can be exhausting and time-consuming. If you’re interviewing at multiple places, the one that has 5+ rounds might start feeling like a slog, especially if another company is quicker to decide. The term “jump through hoops” is key here: it’s an idiom meaning going through lots of challenges or tedious procedures to reach a goal. It comes from circus or dog-training imagery—think of animals literally jumping through hoops as a trick to get a reward. In job terms, “jumping through hoops” means doing many tests, interviews, or tasks just to get hired.

This meme resonates with DeveloperFrustration because many developers feel that some companies make you do too much to prove yourself. It has a bit of CareerHumor and HiringHumor: we laugh because we recognize it’s true to life. The candidate_experience mentioned here refers to how the job seeker experiences the hiring process. In the meme, Company #1 offers a poor candidate experience (lots of steps, slow timeline) while Company #2 offers a good candidate experience (one-and-done, fast offer). The developer naturally chose the better experience.

Why is the recruiter in the last panel so upset, yelling “Nooo!”? It’s poking fun at a certain attitude: some companies or recruiters act as if candidates should be grateful for the opportunity and willing to endure anything to get the job. They might believe their job opening is highly coveted, so they can demand extra proof and time from applicants. When a candidate walks away, it shatters that belief. The meme exaggerates this shock. The pink screaming Wojak is essentially the recruiter realizing, “Oh no, our lengthy process scared off a great candidate!” But instead of self-reflection, the character is depicted as blaming the candidate for not complying. It’s a satire of badly managed recruitment, where the fault lies in the process, not the person, yet the gatekeepers don’t see it.

In simpler terms, the meme is a commentary on InterviewProcess expectations:

  • Company: “We require a lot from you before we decide anything.”
  • Candidate: “I found someone who doesn’t make me do all that.”
  • Company: “That’s not fair! You were supposed to do what we asked!”

The reason this is funny (especially to developers) is because it flips the script. Usually, job seekers feel at the mercy of companies. But here the job seeker had the upper hand. It’s both humorous and satisfying to see the company’s demanding approach lead to them losing out. It highlights the reality that a HiringProcess should balance evaluating the candidate and impressing the candidate. If you make it too much of a one-sided trial, good people may just leave – which is exactly what happens in the meme.

Level 3: Overengineered Hiring Pipeline

The meme captures a painfully familiar scenario in tech hiring: an overengineered hiring pipeline that ends up defeating its own purpose. In the first two panels, a confident developer (the blonde bearded "Chad" Wojak known for his no-nonsense attitude) announces “I’m looking for a new job.” The recruiter’s response is essentially a multi-stage interview loop: “Sure. Just need you to take 2 assessments, a tech screen, then we’ll want 3 interviews then maybe we’ll consider you.” This laundry list of steps is the seven-step interview gauntlet—a drawn-out TechnicalInterviewProcess many companies impose, supposedly to ensure they hire the “best.” It’s a satirical take on what senior devs recognize as an assessments overload. The company is piling on coding tests (likely timed algorithm quizzes or take-home projects), an initial technical screening call, and then three separate interviews (perhaps coding interviews, system design discussions, and a final HR or “culture fit” round). It’s a HiringProcess so elaborate it resembles an enterprise software pipeline with too many stages.

From an experienced developer’s perspective, this is hiring overkill. We’ve seen it: companies that treat recruiting like a marathon of hoops, as if adding more interviews automatically filters for quality. The humor here is that this approach often backfires. The comic literally shows the candidate balking—he immediately opts out in panel 3: “Nevermind, I accepted a job at another company that offered what I wanted after 1 interview.” 👏 This one line reveals the punchline: a rival employer had a streamlined process (just one interview!) and gave the dev exactly what he wanted (likely a solid offer with the role/salary he asked for). The candidate experience there was positive and efficient. By contrast, the first company’s lengthy process created so much recruiting friction that they lost their candidate before the real interviews even began.

This speaks to a known industry truth: in a hot market for developers, the balance of power shifts towards the candidate. Skilled engineers often have multiple options, and they won’t patiently endure an arduous InterviewProcess unless the company is extremely compelling. The meme exaggerates it to great effect: the recruiter (depicted as the pink screaming Wojak in the final panel) is furious, yelling “NOOOO!!!! You were supposed to jump through hoops to prove your worthiness!” This melodramatic outburst personifies the company’s shock – they expected the candidate would dutifully comply with their epic interview saga, as if he should feel grateful for the opportunity. Instead, the candidate exercised his leverage and walked away, leaving the company empty-handed and indignant. It’s a comedic reversal of the usual dynamic: typically, it’s candidates who feel anxiety or frustration at these UnrealisticExpectations, but here the company is shown having a full-blown meltdown when their complex vetting ritual is snubbed.

Why is this so relatable, especially to veteran developers? Because it satirizes a real anti-pattern in hiring. Many of us have encountered job listings or recruiters with unrealistic expectations: expecting candidates to invest hours (even days) into coding assignments, multiple rounds of whiteboard challenges, and panel interviews — all before maybe getting an offer (or sometimes not even a rejection, just ghosting). The meme distills that frustration. The Chad developer embodies the ideal scenario where a candidate knows their value and doesn’t tolerate being strung along. Meanwhile, the company’s reaction highlights the absurd entitlement of some hiring processes that haven’t caught up with reality.

In real-world terms, the InterviewHumor here points out a broken system. Adding more steps is like adding more microservices to an architecture: it sounds efficient in theory, but each integration point (each interview stage) introduces latency and points of failure. Here, each interview “stage” is a chance for the candidate to drop out or get soured on the experience. A savvy recruiter or engineering manager knows that time-to-hire is crucial – too slow, and your ideal candidate vanishes (just like a user might abandon a slow, clunky app). The developer in the meme literally did that: he “timed out” the process and went with a faster competitor. It’s a classic case of candidate drop-off due to process friction. Consider a tongue-in-cheek pseudo-code representation of the situation:

steps = ["Assessment 1", "Assessment 2", "Tech Screen", "Interview 1", "Interview 2", "Interview 3"]
candidate_continues = True

for step in steps:
    print(f"Performing {step}...")
    # Candidate decides to drop out if another offer comes through
    if step == "Tech Screen":
        candidate_continues = False
        print("Candidate: 'Actually, I accepted another offer. Goodbye!'")
        break

if candidate_continues:
    print("Candidate completed all steps - now we can consider giving an offer.")
else:
    print("Candidate left during the process - lost opportunity for us.")

In this mock scenario, as soon as the candidate hits the third step ("Tech Screen"), he bails because he got a better offer. The loop breaks, and the company loses their chance. This is exactly what the meme depicts in human terms. Every additional hoop or interview round is a risk: the probability of retaining a busy candidate drops with each new demand. Recruiting_friction isn’t just a buzzword – it’s the idea that every extra form, test, or delay in hiring increases the chance a candidate will give up or go elsewhere.

The satire hits home because tech companies often pride themselves on optimizing everything with data and Algorithms, yet sometimes fail to optimize their HiringProcess for a good candidate_experience. Imagine designing a user sign-up flow with seven mandatory steps – conversion rates would plummet. Yet, some hiring managers still assume serious candidates will endure a gauntlet of interviews. The final panel’s screaming recruiter is essentially that hiring manager stunned by reality: talented developers have choices. Making a candidate prove their worthiness through excessive screening is an outdated mindset, a relic from when jobs were scarce. By 2021 (when this meme was posted, amid a tech talent shortage and the “Great Resignation” era), it was increasingly clear that companies needed to sell themselves to candidates, not the other way around. The meme humorously delivers this lesson: if you make the hiring process a nightmare, your dream hire might just walk away and never look back – leaving you, the employer, to throw a tantrum alone.

Description

A four-panel meme using the 'Nordic Chad vs. Crying Wojak' format to critique convoluted tech hiring processes. In the first panel, a calm, bearded 'Chad' developer states, 'IM LOOKING FOR A NEW JOB'. A smug Wojak character, representing a recruiter or company, replies, 'SURE. JUST NEED YOU TO TAKE 2 ASSESSMENTS, A TECH SCREEN, THEN WE'LL WANT 3 INTERVIEWS THEN MAYBE WE'LL CONSIDER YOU.' In the second panel, the Chad developer calmly states, 'NEVERMIND, I ACCEPTED A JOB AT ANOTHER COMPANY THAT OFFERED WHAT I WANTED AFTER 1 INTERVIEW.' This enrages the Wojak, who is now depicted as a grotesque, pink, crying figure, screaming, 'NOOOO!!!!11!!! YOU WERE SUPPOSED TO JUMP THROUGH HOOPS TO PROVE YOUR WORTHINESS!'. The meme satirizes the power dynamic in a hot job market for senior talent. It highlights the frustration experienced developers feel with lengthy, multi-stage interview processes and celebrates candidates who recognize their value and opt for more efficient, respectful companies

Comments

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Anonymous ★ Top Pick Some companies have a hiring process longer than their sprint cycle. It's a great way to filter for candidates who enjoy meetings that could have been an email
  1. Anonymous ★ Top Pick

    Some companies have a hiring process longer than their sprint cycle. It's a great way to filter for candidates who enjoy meetings that could have been an email

  2. Anonymous

    Your seven-round interview is just a saga pattern without a compensation step - every senior dev rolls back long before you try to commit

  3. Anonymous

    The best debugging tool for a broken hiring process is having another offer letter - it immediately fixes all those 'mandatory' assessment requirements and suddenly makes you a 'culture fit' without the seventh round panel interview

  4. Anonymous

    Senior engineers in 2024 have realized they're interviewing the company just as much as being interviewed - and companies with 5-round processes are failing the technical screen on 'respects developer time' and showing O(n²) complexity in their hiring pipeline

  5. Anonymous

    20 YOE scaling petabyte clusters, yet recruiters demand LeetCode marathons to 'prove basics' - peak tech absurdity

  6. Anonymous

    Design your hiring pipeline like a distributed system - too many synchronous stages without a fast-path create backpressure, so seniors time out and commit to a lower-latency employer

  7. Anonymous

    If your hiring pipeline has more hops than our service mesh, don’t be surprised when senior candidates trigger a circuit breaker and fail over to the company with a single, low-latency interview

  8. Deleted Account 4y

    Жыза, буквально на прошлой неделе было

    1. @sylfn 4y

      please use english in this chat

    2. @RiedleroD 4y

      please speak english in here

    3. @phpzapecanus 4y

      So do i

    4. @IlyaOnTheInternet 4y

      Please spikingkish

    5. @zuluuus 4y

      Zhiza, bukvalno Na proshloy nedele bylo

      1. @MLXProjects 4y

        English please, my native language is spanish but I respect the rules...

        1. @paul_thunder 4y

          True story, i had literally the same a week ago

        2. @AlihatorU 4y

          Isn't that such a cuckoldish thing to do?

          1. @qwnick 4y

            only Russian could say such things, learn some respect for others, lol

            1. @AlihatorU 4y

              I'am Ukranian

              1. @qwnick 4y

                shame on you then

                1. @AlihatorU 4y

                  The more languages you know, the more human you are. Using international languages such as Russian and English destroy importance of learning new languages. That is even killing cultures btw.

                  1. @qwnick 4y

                    russian -> international language XD no one should learn another language because a smartass like you wants to speak it. Moderators work with English, which is 20 times better known than Russian. Take it or leave it. You can call your disrespectful attitude humanity, if you want. It's ridiculous tho

                    1. @AlihatorU 4y

                      Aren't you notice that I'm do not break the rules?

                      1. @qwnick 4y

                        Aren't you notice that I didn't accuse you in it?

                    2. @AlihatorU 4y

                      So why you say something like "take it or leave it"?

                      1. @qwnick 4y

                        so you want to be "cuckoldish", in your terms? Obviously that you made a critical note about the rules, taking your words back?

                        1. @AlihatorU 4y

                          Yes, I'm

                          1. @qwnick 4y

                            👍

                        2. @AlihatorU 4y

                          The first one

                        3. @AlihatorU 4y

                          The right decision is to leave and start my channel with my own rules. But until I do it, I'm a cuckold

                    3. @AlihatorU 4y

                      Btw I think that Russian is bad. couse of international nature

                  2. @sashakity 4y

                    this is nonsensical, it helps no one that we have so many languages around the world. we need a perfect, engineered language that everyone can speak.

                    1. @AlihatorU 4y

                      Our language is our culture. The personality is formed from it. Without it, humanity will lose more diversity and human development will decline.

                      1. @sashakity 4y

                        i do not understand this way of thinking. humans are humans because they look a certain way, and have powerful minds.

                        1. @AlihatorU 4y

                          Do you understand culture and upbringing role in the formation of a person?

                          1. @sashakity 4y

                            this does not mean we should use broken languages

                            1. @AlihatorU 4y

                              Language is not a communication tool, but an part of personality

                              1. @sashakity 4y

                                what lmao

                                1. @AlihatorU 4y

                                  Now I understand why it's difficult for you

                              2. @qwnick 4y

                                Wat XD

                              3. @sylfn 4y

                                language should be a communication tool

                                1. @AlihatorU 4y

                                  But it's not

                                  1. @sashakity 4y

                                    then what the hell is it then? do you seriously thing we just have language as some sort of cultural artifact, some bizarre art form?

                              4. @qwnick 4y

                                Paying to much attention to things that does not matter may show that person don't have anything valuable to be proud of. Like a poor nation may be proud of the rich past. Its pathetic

                                1. @RiedleroD 4y

                                  > Austrian me > 👀

                    2. @AlihatorU 4y

                      Btw we already have one. It's called Esperanto.

                      1. @freeapp2014 4y

                        isnt is a bit too basic

                        1. @AlihatorU 4y

                          idk

                      2. @RiedleroD 4y

                        Esperanto is just pig Latin afaik

                    3. @thematdev 4y

                      You have furry on profile picture and pronouns in bio, so your opinion is bullshit by default

                      1. @sashakity 4y

                        at least i'm not a libertarian eww

                      2. @freeapp2014 4y

                        does this rule apply for furries too now

                    4. @RiedleroD 4y

                      agreed

                    5. @thematdev 4y

                      We do not need engineered language, because each language formed by culture and environment, in which people had been existing so far

                      1. @sashakity 4y

                        ok why

                        1. @thematdev 4y

                          So what do you think, ideas are determined by language they are expressed, or language is determined by ideas, which speakers express?

                          1. @qwnick 4y

                            Both is wrong, obviously. Corrupted logic.

                            1. @thematdev 4y

                              Elaborate pls

            2. @thematdev 4y

              > learn some respect for others, lol > ONLY RUSSIAN COULD SAY SUCH THINGS

              1. @qwnick 4y

                Yes, correct, russians commonly disrespectful and think that they above rules

              2. @newmankrr 4y

                He's right tho, most of the time who complains about this topic are slavs. I don't think I've seen spanish, italians, portugueses, etc complaining about it.

    6. @QutePoet 4y

      Translation: lifeline, had such situation literally a week ago.

      1. @biskwiq 4y

        it's not lifeline :D a correct translation would be 'relatable'

  9. @Magilarp 4y

    Wage slavery: >:( Wage slavery, cool company: :D

    1. Deleted Account 4y

      big wage slavery with stock options in FAANG MANGA: 😃

  10. @nahuelq 4y

    true story, and It's sometimes depends on your experience and projects that you have had worked

  11. @sashakity 4y

    yeah. DEFINITELY not english. it's one of the worst languages in existence.

  12. @sylfn 4y

    every natural language has disadvantages, every constructed language is either bad or abandoned

  13. @AlihatorU 4y

    You guys just never thought of what makes you you. Try to think about what would happen if you were born in a different environment

    1. @RiedleroD 4y

      what does make me me? hmm… my experiences and resulting capabilities. Language is less than 1% of my personality.

      1. @RiedleroD 4y

        and also genetics obv

      2. @freeapp2014 4y

        well what he means probable is "imagine if austria was talking in some korean instead of german" but honestly i doubt that would cause all that much difference to one person

        1. @freeapp2014 4y

          it will affect the nation as a whole, sure

        2. @RiedleroD 4y

          aye, I think you're right

        3. @Dobreposhka 4y

          i thonk it would

        4. @thematdev 4y

          If Austria was talking Korean it would be different

          1. @qwnick 4y

            So what?

          2. @RiedleroD 4y

            yes, but I'd most likely still be a skinny-ass computer nerd with musical talent

            1. @thematdev 4y

              why do you think so?

              1. @sashakity 4y

                i hypothesize that things like language do not impact personality, but rather customs, traditions, and values affect it.

                1. @sashakity 4y

                  but the thing is, it doesn't matter whether language affects personality or not. so many other things do.

                  1. @freeapp2014 4y

                    +

                2. @thematdev 4y

                  So, i don't want to argue about this, but from conjecture immediately follows, that using one language will destroy all cultures

                  1. @sashakity 4y

                    wh... what? how did you even come to that conclusion? many countries such as america, britain, and australia have significantly different cultures.

                    1. @AlihatorU 4y

                      But we have examples like Belarus too

                      1. @thematdev 4y

                        Belarus was a part of Russia, like Ukraine

                        1. @AlihatorU 4y

                          They still had their own culture after the collapse of the USSR. But now it is gone. The only difference from Ukraine that Russian is the state language

                          1. @sashakity 4y

                            so you ignore other factors that could have contributed to that and immediately point to language?

                            1. @AlihatorU 4y

                              No, just the language was the main thing in my opinion

                          2. @Dobreposhka 4y

                            Ukraine tries to kill Russian in official language completely

                            1. @sylfn 4y

                              * everywhere

                              1. @Dobreposhka 4y

                                well, in just a conversation you still can use it normally, probably, and you won't be scared because of the laws

                            2. @AlihatorU 4y

                              It is the way to save the state language

                              1. @Dobreposhka 4y

                                and to kill language half of the country speaks in

                                1. @AlihatorU 4y

                                  Russian culture and language are safe in Russia. But if Ukraine ignores it, the Belarusian situation will repeat.

                                  1. @Dobreposhka 4y

                                    well, if people choose to speak russian maybe it's better?

                                    1. @RiedleroD 4y

                                      counter-argument: windows is the most widely used OS

                                      1. @Dobreposhka 4y

                                        trust me, for your mum it's better, than linux

                                        1. @RiedleroD 4y

                                          fair point

                                    2. @AlihatorU 4y

                                      The Russian language literally kills. So no

                                      1. @Dobreposhka 4y

                                        lol

                                        1. @AlihatorU 4y

                                          I have already said that I was born in the east of Ukraine. I think you understand

                                          1. @Dobreposhka 4y

                                            ok, were you killed by a language?

                                            1. @AlihatorU 4y

                                              I was lucky and I just suffered economically. Only two people died in my town. But in Mariupol, many were killed. And not to mention how many refugees I saw in my town.

                                              1. @Dobreposhka 4y

                                                not by language же

                                              2. @sylfn 4y

                                                people kill people, not language

                  2. @Dobreposhka 4y

                    so, we all need to speak Russian

                  3. @RiedleroD 4y

                    heard of bilingualism?

                    1. @thematdev 4y

                      As you see in my bad English, yes, I know

                      1. @RiedleroD 4y

                        then stop speaking english immediately, stop destroying your culture! /s

                        1. @thematdev 4y

                          Хорошо /s

                          1. @Dobreposhka 4y

                            (ok)

                          2. @sylfn 4y

                            translation: horror show /s

                    2. @Dobreposhka 4y

                      that means that you have two pre-installed bases of you

              2. @RiedleroD 4y

                because my skinniness results from genetics, my nerdery results from bullying caused by social weakness, caused by genetics, and the musical talent resulted from various factors, but also largely through non-cultural factors

                1. @thematdev 4y

                  >social weakness >caused by genetics

                  1. @RiedleroD 4y

                    yes, I inherited that from my dad who got it from his dad

                    1. @thematdev 4y

                      why do you think that it is caused by genetics, even if your dad has the same issue?

                      1. @RiedleroD 4y

                        the brain. Heard of it? It's caused by genetic code saying that it should be there. It's very complex, but what's understood is that much of the mental capabilities of a person is controlled by genetics, although training can help remove weaknesses.

                        1. @thematdev 4y

                          Why do you think, that all of human chararacteristic and stats are determined by genetic code

                          1. @RiedleroD 4y

                            most of them, aye. Science says so.

                            1. @thematdev 4y

                              "Science says so". What science and why should I trust it, if I can't verify it myself?

                              1. @RiedleroD 4y

                                mate, if your state had proper education, you'd know, but as it seems, you're fine with Dr. google, so just look it up there

                                1. @thematdev 4y

                                  "If your state had proper education", lmao

                                2. @Dobreposhka 4y

                                  again those state lovers

                                  1. @RiedleroD 4y

                                    can't love a state that's shit, I get it. But austrias gov is pretty neat most of the time.

                              2. @sashakity 4y

                                because you do not have the capability to verify all that science says. that's why there are a lot of scientists, so they can peer review eachothers work.

                                1. @thematdev 4y

                                  But usually you do not check is it reviewed or not, you just barely read title

                                  1. @sashakity 4y

                                    speak for yourself.

                                  2. @RiedleroD 4y

                                    either I read the whole damn thing or I don't pretend I know about the subject

                                    1. @thematdev 4y

                                      So you have read all the papers saying that social weakness caused by genetics?

                                      1. @RiedleroD 4y

                                        no, I read enough that I concluded that the chance it's correct is high enough to assume it is.

                                        1. @thematdev 4y

                                          i.e you just believe in it It seems similar to fatalism

                                          1. @RiedleroD 4y

                                            at some point, you need to just believe something. You can't prove everything.

                                            1. @sylfn 4y

                                              you can say "thats obvious"

                                          2. @sashakity 4y

                                            this dude arguing against doing research oh boy

                                            1. @RiedleroD 4y

                                              imagine believing scientists 🙃

                                              1. @RiedleroD 4y

                                                i.e. people who have dedicated their entire lives to a specific field

                                            2. @thematdev 4y

                                              Maybe I am retarded, but I could not find anything about social weakness and genetics

                                              1. @sashakity 4y

                                                use google scholar idk lol

                                              2. @RiedleroD 4y

                                                found in sources of first result on regular google search technically you could argue this only works for disorders I guess, but I don't want to spoonfeed you information just because you're too lazy to find it for yourself.

                                    2. @sashakity 4y

                                      ^

    2. @sashakity 4y

      language doesn't have any bearing on personality lol.

      1. @sashakity 4y

        unless you take it up as an interest.

      2. @thematdev 4y

        why

        1. @RiedleroD 4y

          we just told you

          1. @thematdev 4y

            no

            1. @RiedleroD 4y

              yes

        2. @sashakity 4y

          how about you say why. i believe the burden of proof is on you and oleg

      3. @AlihatorU 4y

        It is

        1. @sashakity 4y

          > it is > doesn't say why

          1. @AlihatorU 4y

            Because it is obvious

            1. @sashakity 4y

              well not to me it isn't.

              1. @AlihatorU 4y

                My English isn't so good to properly say what I meant. So I just give you link to researches about this topic. Everything you need is literally on the first page of Google https://scholar.google.com.ua/scholar?q=how+language+affect+personality+research&hl=uk&as_sdt=0&as_vis=1&oi=scholart

                1. @sashakity 4y

                  are you in the devs with memes chat?

                  1. @AlihatorU 4y

                    I'm not

                    1. @sashakity 4y

                      ahh, that explains why you sent that then.

    3. @AlihatorU 4y

      Btw my way of thinking affected by my native languages too. If you now about eastern Ukrainians or at least Ukrainians in general you can easily guess my nationality.

      1. @Dobreposhka 4y

        hohols you meant?

        1. @sylfn 4y

          hohly

    4. @qwnick 4y

      Because it does not matter, important is to advance and ignore things you didnt choose. I cant be proud of what I didnt accompilsh, like my native language, f.e.

      1. @AlihatorU 4y

        Never mentioned the word pride

      2. @sashakity 4y

        this exactly.

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