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Machine Learning: Just fancy brute force?
AI ML Post #3968, on Nov 24, 2021 in TG

Machine Learning: Just fancy brute force?

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This image utilizes the 'Change My Mind' meme format, which features political commentator Steven Crowder sitting at a table outdoors with a smug expression, holding a mug. A sign on the table presents a controversial statement, inviting debate. In this version, the sign reads, "Machine learning is just fancy brute forcing" and below it, in the standard format of the meme, "CHANGE MY MIND". The humor is derived from the provocative oversimplification of a complex field. While machine learning involves immense computational power and iterative processes, likening it to 'brute forcing' - an exhaustive, unintelligent search of every possible solution - is a deliberately reductionist take that ignores the sophisticated mathematics and algorithms, like gradient descent, that guide the learning process. The joke resonates with developers who enjoy debating definitions and are sometimes skeptical of the hype surrounding AI/ML, framing it as a less magical, more mechanical process

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Anonymous ★ Top Pick Calling machine learning 'fancy brute force' is like calling a distributed database 'a bunch of Excel files.' It's not wrong, just wrong enough to start a fight at the architects' table
  1. Anonymous ★ Top Pick

    Calling machine learning 'fancy brute force' is like calling a distributed database 'a bunch of Excel files.' It's not wrong, just wrong enough to start a fight at the architects' table

  2. Anonymous

    State-of-the-art ML: a for-loop over a million hyperparameter combos, wrapped in Kubernetes and paid for with VC burn - pretty sure that’s just brute force wearing a lab coat

  3. Anonymous

    After 20 years in the industry, I've realized ML is just gradient descent with extra steps and a marketing budget that would make Oracle blush - we went from elegant algorithms to throwing TPUs at problems until the loss function gives up

  4. Anonymous

    The real controversy isn't whether ML is brute forcing - it's that we've convinced VCs to fund billions in GPU clusters to brute force solutions that a well-crafted regex could handle. At least when we brute forced passwords in the 90s, we admitted what we were doing. Now we call it 'training a transformer model' and charge enterprise licensing fees

  5. Anonymous

    Tell me it’s “learning” after your AutoML grid search reserves 512 A100s for the weekend - convergence by budget is just brute force with better branding

  6. Anonymous

    It's not brute force if you slap 'stochastic' on it and bill it as research

  7. Anonymous

    We traded exhaustive search for stochastic gradients and petaflop‑days; the only thing guaranteed to converge is the cloud bill

  8. @UQuark 4y

    No because your model has a feeling of how good it is

  9. @UQuark 4y

    When you are bruteforcing you don't know how far from the answer you are

    1. @KP2020 4y

      And that is the fancy part of it

  10. @yarmoliq 4y

    just like a human brain

  11. @async_andrew 4y

    Changed: http://proceedings.mlr.press/v97/nguyen19a/nguyen19a.pdf

  12. @karim_mahyari 4y

    It's smart bruteforcing, so you stop early and think it's good enough

    1. @beton_kruglosu_totchno 4y

      how smart is that if you do not even fully control your sample data set?

      1. @karim_mahyari 4y

        Maybe that's artificial ignorance

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