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OperatingSystems Post #3040 · source on Telegram

The Linux User's First Existential Crisis: Where App Store?

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This meme uses the 'Where Banana' or 'Confused Orangutans' format. It shows three orangutans sitting around a circular table in what looks like a news studio, appearing bewildered. The top text reads, 'When you try Linux for the first time'. One of the orangutans on the right has a text bubble above its head saying, 'where app store'. The meme humorously captures the initial shock and confusion of users who are accustomed to the GUI-centric ecosystems of Windows or macOS when they first venture into the world of Linux. For them, the absence of a single, prominent 'App Store' and the introduction to concepts like package managers, repositories, and command-line installations (e.g., 'sudo apt-get install') can be a jarring experience, making them feel as lost as the apes in the image. It's a rite of passage that most experienced developers find amusing in retrospect

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Anonymous ★ Top Pick In Linux, the App Store is a sacred place called `/dev/null`. You just pipe your hopes and dreams into it, and if you're lucky, a compiled binary comes out the other side after a few hours of wrestling with dependencies
  1. Anonymous ★ Top Pick

    In Linux, the App Store is a sacred place called `/dev/null`. You just pipe your hopes and dreams into it, and if you're lucky, a compiled binary comes out the other side after a few hours of wrestling with dependencies

  2. Anonymous

    In Linux, the “app store” is that existential choice between apt, yum, pacman, snap, flatpak, or ./configure && make && pray your glibc agrees

  3. Anonymous

    Twenty years later, you're explaining to the new CTO why the company's critical infrastructure runs on a custom fork of Gentoo because "we needed those compiler flags optimized" and now only Dave from 2008 knows how to update OpenSSL

  4. Anonymous

    Ah yes, the classic 'where app store' moment - that beautiful inflection point where you realize your muscle memory for clicking 'Install' is about to be replaced with memorizing whether your distro uses apt, dnf, pacman, or zypper. Welcome to Linux, where the 'app store' is actually seventeen different package managers, three competing universal package formats, and a GitHub repo with installation instructions that start with 'first, compile from source.' But hey, at least you'll finally understand what dependency hell really means

  5. Anonymous

    Linux onboarding: you ask for an “App Store” and get a theology class - apt vs dnf vs pacman, the snap/flatpak schism, GPG keys, and mirrors that mysteriously die exactly at deploy time

  6. Anonymous

    On Linux, the 'app store' is a SAT-solver talking to GPG-signed repos; checkout is apt/dnf/pacman, and your card declines when the libc ABI changes

  7. Anonymous

    First boot: 'Where's the app store?' Terminal replies: 'Held my beer while you compile from source.'

  8. Deleted Account 5y

    You guys use app store on windows?

    1. @briskovic 5y

      This meme is for macOS users. Windows guys can watch and discuss any other pictures on this channel.

      1. Deleted Account 5y

        I thought macOS users are an extinct specie

        1. @executor2077 5y

          Who knew a lot of programmers turned out to be well paid enough to purchase hardware with OS that does not produce a single glitch for years still having perfect graphical interface.

          1. @briskovic 5y

            Not him

          2. @UQuark 5y

            Also, the same OS which is installed on massively overpriced devices

          3. Deleted Account 5y

            and also sending home data about what app you open

          4. @Roman_Millen 5y

            You can't even access most of the storage files via file explorer and forced to use terminal for that. Perfect graphical interface my ass.

            1. @SuperiorProgramming 5y

              You can use the explorer for all storage cases.

              1. dev_meme 5y

                Can it do automated backups? Doubt it. Can you find configuration files with it? Don't think so. Can you even just archive shit to .tar.xz? I don't think so mate, probably only .zip and .tar.gz (and maybe some other archive files, but not nearly all of em)

                1. dev_meme 5y

                  can you even use 7zip? I'm not sure, but since that one has by far the best compression ratio to compression time ratio, it'd be very neat to have.

                  1. @SuperiorProgramming 5y

                    Are you talking about Linux mate? If so you can do whatever you want.

                    1. dev_meme 5y

                      nope, I'm running linux and able to do any of those things (I love engrampa so much omg, F to everyone that can't use it)

                      1. @SuperiorProgramming 5y

                        Preach brother.

                2. @SuperiorProgramming 5y

                  Write a bash script and it would backup automatically what you want. You can install additional apps per your requirement.

                  1. dev_meme 5y

                    but the bash script isn't part of the UI, no? And I'm pretty sure the MacOS explorer doesn't support non-apple extensions.

                    1. @SuperiorProgramming 5y

                      MacOS is a shitty OS. I thought you were talking about Linux.

                      1. dev_meme 5y

                        ah well, no. Linux is (depending on the distro) pretty good at everything.

                        1. @SuperiorProgramming 5y

                          Super.

                          1. dev_meme 5y

                            did you know there are some windows xp games that only run on wine?

                            1. dev_meme 5y

                              so it even wins in compatibility

                            2. @SuperiorProgramming 5y

                              IDK, Mario Dave

                              1. dev_meme 5y

                                nope, just straight up ms solitaire. Also I think the original minesweeper, but I haven't tested that.

                                1. @SuperiorProgramming 5y

                                  I think they need some sort of DLL files to work.

                                  1. dev_meme 5y

                                    ms solitaire only needs cards.dll, and that comes with the exe.

                                    1. @SuperiorProgramming 5y

                                      A while a go I tried to port that thing into Win 7 and I had issues with it.

                                    2. dev_meme 5y

                                      there you go, have fun :)

                                      1. dev_meme 5y

                                        I also got paint, Fulltilt pinball, minesweeper and some screensavers if you want :) They all work flawlessly on wine.

                                        1. @SuperiorProgramming 5y

                                          What about maze, the screen saver. I think that thing was on Win 98

                                          1. dev_meme 5y

                                            uh, hold on, I can get you that one

                                            1. @SuperiorProgramming 5y

                                              Super cool.

                                              1. dev_meme 5y

                                                run it without arguments to configure it, run it with /s to …actually run it.

                                      2. @SuperiorProgramming 5y

                                        Thanks.

          5. @vasyl_khrystiuk 5y

            Linux is free (as a speech)

          6. @doodguy1991 5y

            Wake me up when Half-Life 2 is on macOS again then we'll talk. Fuck off with your garbage OS that arbitrarily removes support for various features whenever it feels like.

        2. @SuperiorProgramming 5y

          😂👍🏽

  9. @beenotung 5y

    The app stores are in the command line, named apt, yum, pacman, pakku, npm, gem e.t.c.

    1. @cringegay 5y

      npm? lol

    2. @AmindaEU 5y

      dnf/flatpak/snap or even pkcon

      1. Deleted Account 5y

        flatpak/snap are legit evil tho

        1. @AmindaEU 5y

          what is evil in flatpak?

          1. Deleted Account 5y

            it doesn't synchronize with the rest of the system (an example of that may be telegram not renering any non-english font), it often uses old outdated dependencies (a Major security hole), ant it weighs like a bus

            1. @AmindaEU 5y

              oh, I see, I think some of those are fixed

              1. Deleted Account 5y

                the 1st one i observed like 2 months ago(i am not going to install flatpak again to retest that), 2nd one is intrinsic to flatpak and unpatchable

                1. Deleted Account 5y

                  and the 3rd one is unfixable too

            2. Deleted Account 5y

              it obviously doesn't synchronise with the rest of the system, that's literally the whole point, it's sandboxed. it only uses outdated dependencies when the application demands it. that's exactly the same on any package manager. and it doesn't use more storage than it needs. but it won't share libraries with the system, so any new library has to be duplicated between flatpak and the system.

              1. Deleted Account 5y

                it takes like 15G to get openscad running, what are you talking about

                1. Deleted Account 5y

                  i have no clue what openscad is

              2. Deleted Account 5y

                oh and also it's "sandbox" is easily breachable

                1. Deleted Account 5y

                  only if the application asks for it.

        2. Deleted Account 5y

          are you okay? snap is evil, but what's wrong with flatpak?

          1. Deleted Account 5y

            laid out the reasons in the msg below

      2. @beenotung 5y

        Must mention docker when I see snap

        1. @dugeru42 5y

          Yea?

    3. @NickComUa 5y

      Not yum , yay

  10. @yarmoliq 5y

    It's not massively

  11. @yarmoliq 5y

    Especially base models with m1

  12. @yarmoliq 5y

    They are the best deal for the price in that form factor

  13. @SuperiorProgramming 5y

    If you are not using Linux at some point in your life, your life isn't complete.

  14. @SuperiorProgramming 5y

    Have you played Devil May Cry 3?

    1. dev_meme 5y

      nope

      1. @SuperiorProgramming 5y

        My first 3D game that I played, Thanks to wine.

        1. dev_meme 5y

          nice

          1. @SuperiorProgramming 5y

            Is there a group / channel that you know who's objective was to talk about Linux and that I can join to?

            1. dev_meme 5y

              nope, sry. But please tell me if you find one.

              1. dev_meme 5y

                (or we could make one 🤔)

                1. @SuperiorProgramming 5y

                  Nice, Go for it.

                  1. dev_meme 5y

                    ah, well. I think it's too soon to do that. Maybe if other guys from here are interested as well.

                    1. @SuperiorProgramming 5y

                      A poll perhaps.

                      1. dev_meme 5y

                        aye, I made a poll. You can't see it unless you join t.me/devs_chat though.

              2. @SuperiorProgramming 5y

                How can I get in touch with you?

                1. dev_meme 5y

                  @RiedleroD

            2. @nic11 5y

              Talking about specifically games, there's ProtonDB Discord server (guild). It's mainly about Proton (custom Wine distro by Valve for running Windows games on Linux)

              1. @SuperiorProgramming 5y

                I'll check that out. Thanks.

  15. @AmindaEU 5y

    depends on your distro, but it's there are you coming from macOS or Windows? if Windows, condolences on seeing mostly malware or fake apps there

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