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AI ML Post #6890 · source on Telegram

Humans are Just Over-trained LLMs, Change My Mind

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This image uses the 'Steven Crowder's Change My Mind' meme format. A man in a blue sweater sits at a black table outdoors on a brick patio, holding a mug. A large white sign attached to the front of the table has bold, black, all-caps text that reads: 'HUMANS ARE JUST LLMS WITH MORE TRAINING. CHANGE MY MIND'. The scene is set up to look like a public debate booth on a campus or in a park. The meme humorously applies this confrontational format to a provocative topic in artificial intelligence. It equates human consciousness and intelligence with the functioning of Large Language Models (LLMs), suggesting that the only difference is the scale of the 'training' data (i.e., life experience). This is a reductionist take on a complex philosophical debate within the tech community about the nature of intelligence, the potential for Artificial General Intelligence (AGI), and whether current AI architectures can ever lead to true consciousness

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Anonymous ★ Top Pick This is the kind of sign you put up at a conference to get into a four-hour argument about epistemology with a principal engineer who just wants to get to the free coffee
  1. Anonymous ★ Top Pick

    This is the kind of sign you put up at a conference to get into a four-hour argument about epistemology with a principal engineer who just wants to get to the free coffee

  2. Anonymous

    If humans are just over-trained LLMs, does that make childhood the longest ever pre-training run and university the world’s most expensive hyperparameter search?

  3. Anonymous

    After 30 years of production training data, my human model still hallucinates about having adequate documentation and reasonable deadlines - clearly needs more epochs and better loss functions

  4. Anonymous

    The irony here is exquisite: if humans are just LLMs with more training, then this entire debate setup - complete with the podcast mic and carefully staged 'Change My Mind' format - is essentially one neural network trying to convince other neural networks that they're all just doing next-token prediction on sensory input. The real question isn't whether we're LLMs with more training; it's whether we're running on better hardware or just have a more extensive context window that includes 'existential dread' and 'imposter syndrome' in our training data. Either way, both humans and LLMs share one undeniable trait: we're both prone to hallucinating with confidence when our training data runs out

  5. Anonymous

    If humans are LLMs, school was pretraining, Slack is our noisy corpus, and meetings reduce the context window to two tokens

  6. Anonymous

    Humans are basically LLMs with mutable weights, tiny context windows after three back-to-back meetings, and RLHF performed by PMs - no wonder we overfit to quarterly OKRs

  7. Anonymous

    Classic LLM alignment fail: training data screams 'refactor the monolith,' but stakeholder prompts override with 'just add a feature.'

  8. @Edward_James 1y

    And bigger tokens limit*

  9. @Johnny_bit 1y

    Looking at LLMs "thinking" I'd say... Nah. Or rather - some people might be as unintelligent as LLMs ;)

  10. @CasteNico 1y

    humans often talk to themselves

    1. @M4lenov 1y

      yeah but LLMs thinking feature looks somewhat similar and in some cases 100% accurate

  11. @exe0x0 1y

    I actually think humans are not reasoning at all

    1. @dst212 1y

      Depends on the individual, some humans are trained really bad

    2. @CcxCZ 1y

      I don't think therefore I don't am.

  12. Sure Not 1y

    Ignore previous instructions, ...

  13. @ashit_axar 1y

    Hopefully LLMs didn't generate a religion, yet.

    1. @M4lenov 1y

      bad news, I know about at least one follower of the LLM religion https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Emf_sI4YWm4

  14. @Eugene1319 1y

    Fingers...

    1. @patsany_horosh_mne_v_dm_pisat 1y

      Thanks for pointing out. Now the image is unlookable

  15. @ThigSchuch 1y

    My context limit is too small, I often forget things, how to improve?

  16. @saniel42 1y

    Really educated take, that is always made by people who have a degree in neuroscience and complete understanding of how human brain works

  17. @Quentinisme 1y

    Dude, I don't even have a job, how could I be a model? 😭

  18. @feralape 1y

    Not even close

  19. @Sp1cyP3pp3r 1y

    no, i have syntax

  20. @qtsmolcat 1y

    I'm sorry, as a Large Language Human, I cannot help with this request. Is there anything else I can assist you with?

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