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Gemini's Clean Sweep on the AI Leaderboard

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The image displays a leaderboard-style comparison of various large language models (LLMs) on a light-themed table. The top row, for the model 'gemini-exp-1206', is highlighted with a bright yellow background and shows a rank of '1' in every single category across the board. The categories include 'Overall', 'Coding', 'Math', 'Creative Writing', 'Instruction Following', and others. Competing models listed below it, such as 'chatgpt-4o-latest', 'gemini-exp-1121', 'o1-preview', and 'claude-3-5-sonnet', all have varying, higher numerical ranks, indicating lower performance. Overlaid on the image in a large red font is the text 'Gemini top-1 in all domains!'. In the bottom right corner, the watermark 'lmarena.ai' is visible. This image is a benchmark result, likely from a platform like LMSys Arena (lmarena.ai), which pits LLMs against each other. The visual unequivocally declares that a new experimental Gemini model has achieved the top rank in all measured capabilities, a significant event in the highly competitive field of AI development. For developers, this signifies a potential new state-of-the-art model to experiment with or integrate into their workflows

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Anonymous ★ Top Pick The 'gemini-exp-1206' model's performance is so dominant, its developers are probably running benchmarks now to see if it can achieve a rank of 0
  1. Anonymous ★ Top Pick

    The 'gemini-exp-1206' model's performance is so dominant, its developers are probably running benchmarks now to see if it can achieve a rank of 0

  2. Anonymous

    Pretty sure the query behind this slide was just `SELECT 1 AS rank FROM benchmarks;` - marketing-driven AGI achieved!

  3. Anonymous

    Ah yes, the quarterly 'our model is #1' leaderboard shuffle - where every vendor cherry-picks their benchmarks until everyone's simultaneously winning. Next week's update: 'Actually, we meant #1 on Tuesdays, evaluated on palindromes, with style control set to 'baroque.'

  4. Anonymous

    When your model achieves perfect 1s across all benchmarks, you know it's either genuinely revolutionary or the evaluation criteria were suspiciously well-aligned with your training data. Either way, the marketing team is already drafting the 'AGI achieved' press release while the engineers nervously check if anyone tested adversarial prompts

  5. Anonymous

    Great - Gemini is #1 everywhere; wake me when there’s a column for “writes idempotent migrations, respects rate limits, and doesn’t hallucinate new APIs during a Sev‑1.”

  6. Anonymous

    Gemini crushes arena benchmarks in coding and math - too bad it can't outlast your monolith in a production outage

  7. Anonymous

    Great - rank‑1 across every column; Goodhart’s Law just filed a Sev‑2: “optimized for the leaderboard, regressed in production.”

  8. @Araalith 1y

    All my experience with Gemini is worse than even GPT-3.5. It's bullshitting everything, effectively transforming every request into some kind of trendy social media agenda.

    1. @ArchangelRaphael666 1y

      try api version of gemini, it should solve some of them with prompt, however totally agree about those weird formatting

      1. @Araalith 1y

        I even tried ScholarAI

    2. dev_meme 1y

      Yeah, same here, that’s why I posted it since it finally something

    3. dev_meme 1y

      Aider Code editing benchmark

      1. dev_meme 1y

        To me it's kinda the best benchmark out there right now in regard of coding capabilities Totally aligned with my own experience of models usage

        1. @Araalith 1y

          Oh, here's an example from today: I asked Gemini how to enable caching for requests with authorization using OutputCache in C#, .NET 8. It took me 5 attempts. Three of the answers were just hallucinations and syntax errors (lol), one was complete BS with a lecture about caching, and on the fifth attempt, it gave me an answer about custom policies - but Gemini didn't override the default behavior (excludeDefaultPolicy), so that was a fail too. I'm glad Gemini can handle childish coding tasks with a 70% success rate, but beyond that, its coding capabilities are a joke.

          1. dev_meme 1y

            Why did you asked Gemini about something?

          2. dev_meme 1y

            Or you’re talking about 1206?

            1. @Araalith 1y

              Nope, it's gemini-pro-experimental-0827. My bad. It seems I don't have access to the latest one

  9. @V0W4N 1y

    sonnet still the real goat tho fr 🙏🙏

  10. @chirpbirb 1y

    my own flesh-bag brain beats all of these, checkmate

  11. @kirisoraa 1y

    do you know what version is on the google assistant on pixel phones?

    1. @Araalith 1y

      Disabled. Really, who uses it?

  12. Deleted Account 1y

    I try it

  13. @Araalith 1y

    Tested. Nope. Same BS and hallucinations. I usually ask LLMs for how-to instructions to avoid reading tons of documentation. They provide code snippets I can use or modify, but for anything more complex than basics, they mix up everything and include unnecessary code. While o1 might try to debug the issues, Gemini just goes off the rails and produces even more hallucinations. Claude, however, is still the best.

    1. @qtsmolcat 1y

      Gemini also has a very low response size limit

    2. @qtsmolcat 1y

      Also, with ChatGPT o1 or even 4o, if you role play a bit and are willing to go back and forth with revisions, it can actually be useful. It works great if you don't have somebody that can help you debug for instance, but you shouldn't expect it to just spit out a fully functional app first try

      1. @Algoinde 1y

        In my experience if you actually want it to write some code, you have to be very specific with your design requirements, as in, you have to offer it implementation options to your best understanding. You actually need to know what roughly it has to write for it to write anything remotely useful.

        1. @Algoinde 1y

          After all, an LLM is not an engineer, you are the engineer. Garbage in, predicted garbage out

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