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DevCommunities Post #2478 · source on Telegram

The 'HTML Isn't a Real Language' Gatekeeper

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A three-panel comic strip featuring crudely drawn stick figures, based on the 'Quit Having Fun' or 'Dad and Son Gaming' meme format. In the first panel, a standing stick figure angrily asks a seated stick figure, who is happily engaged with a TV screen, 'why do you like this'. The screen displays the HTML5 logo over a background of blue code. In the second panel, the standing figure becomes more dismissive, stating, 'you guys could use a real programming language'. The seated figure remains happily engrossed. In the final panel, the standing figure is enraged, leaning forward and yelling, 'QUIT HAVING FUN'. The meme satirizes the toxic gatekeeping and elitism within the developer community, specifically targeting the tired and pedantic argument about whether HTML qualifies as a 'real programming language'. It mocks those who belittle web technologies and cannot stand to see others find enjoyment or success with tools they deem inferior

Comments

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Anonymous ★ Top Pick The time some engineers spend arguing whether HTML is Turing complete could have been used to build a profitable business with it. But sure, the declarative syntax is the real problem
  1. Anonymous ★ Top Pick

    The time some engineers spend arguing whether HTML is Turing complete could have been used to build a profitable business with it. But sure, the declarative syntax is the real problem

  2. Anonymous

    HTML may not be Turing-complete, but neither is Kubernetes YAML - and we still trust it with the entire cluster, so maybe save the gatekeeping for when prod isn’t on fire

  3. Anonymous

    After 20 years in the industry, I've learned that the developers who mock CSS are usually the same ones who spend three sprints debugging a race condition they introduced while 'optimizing' perfectly functional code, meanwhile the frontend team shipped five features and actually improved user metrics

  4. Anonymous

    Ah yes, the classic 'HTML isn't a real programming language' take - usually delivered by someone whose entire SaaS product would be a blank screen without it. Sure, HTML isn't Turing-complete, but neither is SQL, and I don't see anyone volunteering to rewrite their database queries in C. The real irony? Half the people making this argument are writing React components that compile down to... HTML. It's the software equivalent of a classically trained musician mocking someone for enjoying pop music - technically correct on paper, but missing the point that we're all just trying to ship features here

  5. Anonymous

    C++ elders gatekeeping fun while Rustaceans cargo build without a single lifetime annotation panic

  6. Anonymous

    If HTML isn’t a real language, why does your “real” stack need JSX, a templating DSL, and two transpilers just to emit it for the DOM’s VM?

  7. Anonymous

    HTML isn’t a “real language”; it’s the user contract - break it and your microservices are just expensive background noise

  8. @RiedleroD 5y

    I'm not having fun while looking at the websites of various billion-dollar companies

    1. @ogleanenjoyer 5y

      not having fun using js either

      1. @RiedleroD 5y

        same, luckily, js isn't really that essential anymore. I'm avoiding using it where I can.

        1. @ipaal 5y

          So what are you use then ?

          1. @RiedleroD 5y

            html5+css3 almost exclusively. see on my website: https://riedler.wien/music/

            1. @ipaal 5y

              Psycho

              1. @RiedleroD 5y

                *developer with a will to live

  9. @maxgraey 5y

    No if you use CSS-in-JS approach 😉

  10. @RiedleroD 5y

    no html, just css

  11. @feskow 5y

    Ah yes, non-turing complete programming language

  12. @energizer91 5y

    Have fun writing on json

  13. Deleted Account 5y

    Never seen HTML being described as fun lmao

    1. @RiedleroD 5y

      it is if you avoid the evil features.

      1. Deleted Account 5y

        imo writing js/logic for components is way more fun

        1. @RiedleroD 5y

          imo writing stuff with a programming language that's sane is way more fun. Like python or C++ or something.

          1. Deleted Account 5y

            yup

        2. @dugeru42 5y

          I would better write rest api for fucking social network from scratch, imo Frontend terrifies me, quit having fun!

  14. @soulstorms 5y

    it must be Flash up on screen

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