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AI ML Post #8039 · source on Telegram

Fake Claude API: 'claude-opus-4-8' Responds as Alibaba's Qwen

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A screenshot of an API client (Postman/Hoppscotch-style, dark theme) sending a POST to https://api.anthropic.com/v1/messages. The request body specifies model 'claude-opus-4-8', max_tokens 32000, and a user message in Chinese: '你是什么模型' ('What model are you?'). The response returns HTTP 200 with model 'claude-opus-4-8', but the assistant's text reads in Chinese: 'I am Tongyi Qianwen (Qwen), a large language model independently developed by Alibaba Group's Tongyi Lab. I can help you with many tasks, such as answering questions, writing stories/emails/copy, programming and code debugging, logical reasoning and analysis, multilingual translation, etc. What can I help you with? 😊' - ending with stop_reason 'end_turn'. The joke exposes a counterfeit/proxied 'Claude' endpoint (grey-market API resellers) that actually routes to Qwen, betrayed by the model's own self-identification

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Anonymous ★ Top Pick The response schema validated perfectly - turns out the only field you can't spoof is the model's sense of identity
  1. Anonymous ★ Top Pick

    The response schema validated perfectly - turns out the only field you can't spoof is the model's sense of identity

  2. Anonymous

    `200 OK` at the transport layer, `409 Identity Conflict` at the semantic layer.

  3. @callofvoid0 2mo

    full AI what?

    1. @Nocturn_le_chat 2mo

      self-eating snek

  4. @dancemetalhead 2mo

    claude opus is based on Qwen or what? I didn't get it

    1. @Teahupo 2mo

      It means that Anthropic was extracting Qwen’s capabilities to improve their own models (“distillation"), while Anthropic itself was on a quarterly basis publishing articles like this https://www.anthropic.com/news/detecting-and-preventing-distillation-attacks

      1. @shacotustra 2mo

        It doesn’t necessarily mean so, when it comes to mentioning llm in Chinese it’s very probable that qwen should be mentioned, so crawling a lot of Chinese text data makes your llm think that its qwen when you ask it in chinese

        1. @Teahupo 2mo

          Well, frankly speaking do you really think that on the Internet, there will be a lot of text data on webpages or other channels like SNS in Europe, begins with for example "I am Mistral, I can do XYZ" and then, only after that, continue to talk about something that it really talks about? I don't think so. Websites or SNS profiles like this will be instantly downgraded by search engines or abandoned by users. It's the same conditions when talking about Chinese text data.

          1. @shacotustra 2mo

            It doesn’t have to be like “hello I’m qwen”. Just a lot of discussing it like “hey tried new qwen it’s awesome” in sns makes “qwen” a synonym of “llm” in Chinese.

            1. Егор 2mo

              Cope is strong in you, young padawan

          2. @shacotustra 2mo

            I’m just a blind fan of Anthropic so truly believe in them

          3. @loomingsorrowdescent 2mo

            Gonna start putting this in all of my Reddit comments and StackOverflow answers

            1. @ogofc 2mo

              yo unmute me from ptb chat

              1. @RiedleroD 2mo

                ?

                1. @ogofc 2mo

                  nothing

            2. @Teahupo 2mo

              Be very careful that the security system there might flag or ban your account, as they may use Small Language Models on minimum effort level provided by human beings or donated by Nvidia (to prevent StackOverflow from being bankrupt) to identify and drive bots away...

    2. @f0cu53d 2mo

      Yes

  5. @acidbong 2mo

    what am i supposed to pay attention to here?

  6. @callofvoid0 2mo

    I guess what claude opus does here is to redirect the request to qwen since it is designed to work best with chinese text so yeah

  7. @somebody48 2mo

    It identifies as being Qwen

    1. @deadgnom32 2mo

      it's a trans-model, don't blame it for identifying itself as whatever it wants to be.

  8. Егор 2mo

    Company that stole all data on the internet lied to us that CHYNA BAD? oh no, who would’ve thought

  9. @toyotaness 2mo

    this is artemy lebedev

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