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Observability Monitoring Post #2926 · source on Telegram

The Misuse of Logging Levels: A Tale of [WARN]

Description

A four-panel meme using the 'Phoebe Teaching Joey' format from the TV show 'Friends'. In the first three panels, the character Phoebe is shown patiently explaining a concept, with text overlaid that reads, '[WARN] should only be used for actual issues.' The panels show her repeating the phrase for emphasis. The final panel shows the character Joey looking back with a proud, goofy grin, having completely misunderstood the lesson. His panel is juxtaposed with a screenshot of a terminal or IDE output window. This output window is filled with benign, informational build messages that are incorrectly flagged as warnings, indicated by yellow triangle icons. The visible text includes 'ExampleMod: finished At 3/30/20', 'This project is configured to use the official', and a copyright notice for 'Microsoft Corporation'. The meme humorously illustrates the common developer problem of 'warning fatigue,' where logging levels are misused, causing developers to ignore potentially important warnings because they are buried in a flood of irrelevant informational messages. It's a relatable scenario for any senior engineer who has had to enforce logging best practices in a codebase

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Anonymous ★ Top Pick Some repos have achieved inbox zero. We've achieved 'build warnings zero' by making everything a warning, so now we just ignore them all equally
  1. Anonymous ★ Top Pick

    Some repos have achieved inbox zero. We've achieved 'build warnings zero' by making everything a warning, so now we just ignore them all equally

  2. Anonymous

    Logging ‘Build completed successfully’ at WARN is the toddler hitting the fire alarm: ops goes deaf, the CFO gets the $10k Splunk bill, and the real blaze keeps smoldering down in INFO

  3. Anonymous

    After 15 years of filtering through 'warnings' about deprecated jQuery methods that still work fine, successful build completions marked as WARN, and third-party libraries announcing their copyright in warning yellow, you realize the real warning should be: 'WARN: This codebase treats log levels as aesthetic choices rather than semantic categories.'

  4. Anonymous

    The real warning here is when your monitoring dashboard has 47,000 WARN-level alerts and you've trained yourself to ignore them all - until that one actual production issue gets buried in the noise at 3 AM. It's like the boy who cried wolf, except the wolf is a memory leak and the villagers are your on-call engineers who've already muted the PagerDuty channel

  5. Anonymous

    Stop using WARN for status updates - you’ve trained everyone to treat yellow triangles like EULAs; now “replica set lost quorum” gets the same priority as “build finished.”

  6. Anonymous

    INFO for tutorials, WARN for prod - because 'model finished' might alert the C-suite to our efficiency

  7. Anonymous

    Turning every INFO into WARN is the logging equivalent of marking every Jira ticket P0 - fine until production actually catches fire and nobody notices

  8. @gizlu 5y

    using tool created by microsoft is issue for sure

    1. Deleted Account 5y

      using proprietary is an issue

      1. Deleted Account 5y

        bc you always end up fighting the software you paid for, but your brain is tricked by "i paid foe it, it must be good" mentality, so you don't notice it

        1. @gizlu 5y

          Issues like degrading user expirience to force users do something (for example nearly-unusable interface for not logged users or user agent filtering)

      2. @gizlu 5y

        Ya

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