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The Daily Dilemma: Ship It or Make It Perfect
ProjectManagement Post #4710, on Jul 31, 2022 in TG

The Daily Dilemma: Ship It or Make It Perfect

Why is this ProjectManagement meme funny?

Level 1: Grandpa’s Surprise

Picture an old grandfather and a young helper. The grandpa is lying on the ground looking weak, and the worried young person yells, “Call an ambulance!” because they think grandpa is really hurt. But suddenly, the grandpa jumps up, completely fine, and says, “But not for me!” – and maybe playfully points a finger like it’s a toy gun. The young helper thought grandpa needed saving, but it turns out grandpa was tricking them and is actually strong as ever. It’s funny because we expected the old grandpa to be in trouble, but he surprised everyone by being okay and even turning the tables on the younger person. In this meme, the grandpa represents an old programming language (C++), and the young helper is a new programming language (Carbon). The joke is saying: “Everyone thought the old language needed rescuing by the new one, but nope! The old one is still tough and isn’t going anywhere.” It’s like when you think an old toy is broken and you’re ready to throw it out, but then it suddenly starts working perfectly and reminds you why it was so good to begin with. The feeling we get is a mix of surprise and laughter – the old-timer isn’t done yet, and the new kid is left standing there astonished.

Level 2: New Language Hype Cycle

Let’s break down the joke for those newer to the LanguageComparison and hype cycle game. C++ (pronounced “see plus plus”) is a programming language that’s been around since the 1980s. It’s a powerful, low-level language often used to build things like operating systems, game engines (the core of big games), and high-performance applications. C++ gives developers a lot of control over the machine – you manage memory directly, you can optimize for speed – but with that power comes complexity. You might have heard tales of segmentation faults (crashes) or how tricky pointers can be; those are part of C++’s learning curve. Yet, despite its age and quirks, C++ remains a backbone of software infrastructure. It’s continually updated (modern C++ has smart pointers to help with memory, auto to deduce types, and other improvements), but it still must support decades-old code. That means C++ carries a lot of historical baggage in its design for the sake of backward compatibility. Seasoned C++ devs have adapted to this and often wear their mastery of the language’s complexity as a badge of honor.

Now enter Carbon – a new programming language project revealed by Google in 2022. Carbon is touted as an experimental successor to C++. Think of it as Google saying, “What if we designed a fresh language to eventually replace C++ in the long run?” The goal is to inherit C++’s strengths (speed, low-level access, broad usage) while fixing some of its weaknesses (safety issues, verbose syntax, decades of accumulated gotchas). For example, Carbon developers want easier generics (templates in C++ can be notoriously confusing), a simpler syntax without things like header files, and built-in safeguards to prevent common bugs. Crucially, Carbon is designed to interoperate with C++ – meaning you could call Carbon code from C++ and vice versa – so that existing large C++ codebases could gradually adopt Carbon parts instead of a complete rewrite. This shows Carbon’s team understands that LanguageAdoption in industry is gradual; you can’t just throw out all existing C++ code overnight.

So why the drama in the meme? The meme uses a popular format (the “Call the ambulance… but not for me” two-panel scene) to illustrate the dynamic between enthusiastic Carbon supporters and veteran C++ programmers. In the first panel, the younger man labeled “CARBON DEVELOPERS” is panicking and says “Call the ambulance!” while tending to an older man labeled “C++ DEVELOPERS” who appears to be hurt or fading. Here’s the translation: Carbon’s enthusiasts see C++ as an ailing patient – an old language in trouble, needing rescue. “Call the ambulance” symbolizes the idea “Let’s save these C++ folks with our new, better language!” It reflects genuine concerns: many developers find C++ hard to use or fraught with pitfalls, so a lot of people get excited about a new solution like Carbon. The yellow subtitle text is just the meme quoting what Carbon devs would be saying in that moment.

But then comes the punchline: in the second panel, the supposedly weak C++ old-timer is suddenly very alive and pulls out a gun, aimed at the stunned Carbon dev, with the caption “…But not for me!”. This reverses the situation. The C++ side is effectively saying, “I don’t need that ambulance after all!” or “I’m not the one in danger here – you are.” The humor lies in the unexpected reversal. We thought C++ was the one at death’s door, but actually it’s ready to fight off the would-be rescuer. In plainer terms, C++ developers are asserting that their language isn’t going to be killed off so easily by Carbon. It’s a cheeky way of saying C++ is still in control of its fate, thank you very much. The gun in the meme is obviously metaphorical – C++ isn’t literally attacking anyone – but it symbolizes the arsenal of strengths and the determination C++ devs have. They might point out, for instance, that Carbon is very new and unproven (it’s still mostly a prototype, whereas C++ has decades of real-world use). Or that C++ will continue to evolve and incorporate improvements (so why jump ship?). Or simply that there are so many C++ codebases out there that it will be relevant for a very long time to come. This legacy_language_defense is common whenever a new technology is hyped as a replacement: the existing community will list all the reasons the “old” thing isn’t truly going away. In online forums you might see exchanges like:

  • New language fan: “Carbon will make C++ obsolete!”
  • C++ veteran: “We’ve heard that before. Let’s see your new language manage what billions of lines of C++ code already do.”

The language_successor_debate often brings out strong feelings because people invest a lot of time learning and working with these tools. A C++ expert has survived years of debugging and mastering tricky concepts; being told their beloved (if occasionally exasperating) language will be replaced can feel personal. Hence, the defensive (and in this meme, comedic aggressive) posture.

It helps to compare the two languages to understand the context:

C++ (the veteran) Carbon (the newcomer)
History & Age: Established in 1985 (over 35 years old), created by Bjarne Stroustrup. It’s been used to build software for generations (literally – some C++ code has outlived the developers who wrote it). History & Age: Announced in 2022 at a tech conference by Google. It’s brand new – so new that it’s not even fully developed yet, just an experimental project in progress.
Ecosystem: Enormous. Multiple compilers (like GCC, MSVC, Clang) optimize C++ for every major platform. Thousands of libraries and frameworks (from GUI libraries to game engines) are written in C++. Legacy systems in banks, games like Fortnite, databases like MySQL – all heavily use C++. Ecosystem: Tiny (for now). A few early-stage tools and an LLVM-based compiler prototype that can compile some Carbon code. Virtually no large applications written in it yet, because it’s still evolving. It’ll take years for Carbon to build a comparable ecosystem, if it ever does.
Performance & Control: High-performance, low-level control. Developers manage memory (using pointers, new/delete, or smart pointers for RAII). C++ code can be as fast or faster than code in almost any other language if done right. But with great power comes great responsibility – mistakes can cause crashes or security bugs. Performance & Control: Aims for similar low-level performance as C++, but with safer defaults. For example, Carbon is designed to prevent certain types of memory errors by design (possibly through bounds checking or stricter references). The idea is to give you C++ speed with less risk of shooting yourself in the foot. It’s not fully there yet on all safety features, but that’s the intent.
Syntax & Complexity: Extremely rich but complex syntax. Features accumulative from decades: header files, templates, macros, multiple inheritance, etc. Powerful metaprogramming, but error messages can be bewildering. C++ has a reputation for a steep learning curve and weird quirks (like the infamous “most vexing parse” or having both ++i and i++). Backwards compatibility means even ancient C++98 or C code still often compiles, but that also means carrying some archaic designs forward. Syntax & Simplicity: Carbon’s syntax looks familiar but tries to be simpler. For instance, Carbon doesn’t use header files (one of C++’s archaic aspects); it might use a more straightforward import system. Generics in Carbon (think templates) aim to be easier to write and read. The language designers are also free to avoid C++’s historical warts because they aren’t forced to be backwards compatible with code from the 90s. The trade-off: Carbon can break from old C++ conventions to improve clarity, but that means C++ devs have to learn new keywords and idioms.
Current Status: Very much alive and evolving. The C++ standards committee keeps adding features (like modules, concepts, ranges in recent C++20, and even more in C++23). C++ code runs everywhere – from microcontrollers in your toaster to high-frequency trading systems. There’s a massive workforce skilled in it. Any “replacement” language has to convince this large community to switch, which is a slow process if it happens at all. Also, many C++ projects are so large and critical that switching to something new is risky or impractical. Current Status: Exciting but speculative. Carbon is open-source and has some prototype implementation, but it’s not production-ready. It’s in a research/experimentation phase. Many developers are curious (especially those who feel C++ needs an upgrade), but companies won’t port their code to Carbon until it’s stable, officially supported, and proven over time. It could be years before Carbon sees widespread real-world use, assuming it gains momentum and doesn’t fizzle out like some past “C++ replacements.”

The table shows why the C++ crowd isn’t exactly trembling with fear. They respect what Carbon is trying to do (many C++ developers also acknowledge the language’s flaws and would love some things to be easier or safer). But they also know that new languages face an uphill battle. LanguageAdoption is not just about technical merits; it’s about community, tooling, and trust built over years.

The meme takes these nuances and exaggerates them into a funny skit. Carbon_developers thought C++ was a helpless old man lying there (the perception that C++ is outdated and desperately needs a replacement). “Call the ambulance!” could be interpreted as “Quick, bring in Carbon, C++ is in critical condition!” Meanwhile, the C++_developers were playing possum – feigning weakness. When they say “But not for me!”, it’s like they’re revealing: “We’re not the ones who are in trouble after all.” The surprise gun implies C++ will fight to stay alive. In plainer terms, C++ devs believe their language will continue to thrive, and it might actually be Carbon (or the hype around it) that ends up “shot down” or fading away once the initial excitement settles. It’s a humorous take on new_language_hype: often a flashy announcement gets everyone excited, but then the reality sets in that the incumbent technology isn’t so easily dethroned.

Also, a bit of meta-meme context: The “Call an ambulance, but not for me” scene comes from a popular video clip used in memes to depict a sudden reversal. It fits perfectly here because it visually delivers the message of a bait-and-switch. People familiar with the meme template know to expect that twist. In our context, the twist is that the seemingly endangered old technology (C++) turns out to be just fine – perhaps even dominant – while the would-be rescuer (Carbon) did not see the counterattack coming. It’s like a cartoon moment where the “helpless” character says a one-liner and flips the script. For a junior developer or someone new to this joke: imagine thinking a programming language is on its deathbed, and then realizing it was a false alarm – not only is it alive, it’s giving the new guy a reality check. That’s what’s happening between Carbon and C++ in this meme. The older language might be clutching its chest one moment, but it has a proverbial gun and a grin the next, saying “I got this, kid.” In short, C++ vs Carbon has turned into a comedic standoff, and this meme is how developers poke fun at that situation.

Level 3: Legacy Strikes Back

In the grand saga of LanguageWars, this meme captures a classic successor showdown between an entrenched veteran language and a hyped newcomer. Here C++ developers (the old guard) dramatize their resilience against Carbon developers (the eager upstarts from Google’s new Carbon language project). The first panel shows an older C++ dev seemingly defeated, which reflects how industry buzz often paints C++ as outdated or on the brink of irrelevance. Google unveiled Carbon in mid-2022 intending to address C++’s notorious complexity and legacy baggage – essentially calling an ambulance for systems programming. Carbon promised modern features like simpler syntax, generics without the template circus, and safer defaults, all while interoperating with existing C++ code. To many seasoned C++ engineers, this sounded like yet another “C++ killer” announcement in a long history of language_successor_debate. They’ve heard declarations of “this new language will save us from C++!” before – from Java in the 90s to D in the 2000s to Rust in the 2010s – yet C++ is still standing (and compiling). The meme’s second panel – the C++ old-timer springing up with a revolver – symbolizes the plot twist: C++ isn’t actually dying; in fact, it’s ready to shoot down the hype. This twist resonates with senior developers because it satirizes the cycle of IndustryTrends_Hype: a new language claims to rescue everyone from an aging technology’s woes, only for the “obsolete” technology to prove it’s not so easily replaced.

From a seasoned perspective, the humor comes from how Carbon’s creators and fans might overestimate C++’s weakness. Sure, C++ has tech debt and foot-guns (dangling pointers, undefined behavior, arcane template errors – you name it). But C++ has something Carbon doesn’t: decades of battle-hardening. Real-world operating systems, game engines, databases – they run on millions of lines of C++. There’s a vast ecosystem of compilers, libraries, and expertise built around it. Rewriting or migrating all that to a nascent language like Carbon is the kind of herculean refactor that gives CTOs nightmares. Seasoned devs know that even if Carbon eventually addresses C++’s pain points (memory safety, cleaner syntax, etc.), adoption will be slow and fraught. There’s inertia and pride at play. C++ isn’t slumped over because it’s about to die; it’s resting one eye open, possibly faking distress until the moment is right. This meme perfectly channels that defiant energy: the legacy_language_defense mechanism kicking in. The “Call the ambulance…but not for me!” template is a wink to how the old guard often feigns acquiescence to new tech only to retaliate with a reality check – “Not so fast, kid!”. In other words, C++ won’t go gently into that good night; if Carbon (or any newcomer) wants the systems programming throne, it’s going to have to pry it from C++’s cold, constexpr-hardened hands.

It’s also a commentary on hype vs. reality. Carbon was introduced with fanfare (backed by Google’s influence and a slick pitch deck at a conference), and early adopters framed it as the future heir to C++. Meanwhile, experienced C++ devs raised an eyebrow, recalling similar fanfares in the past. They know that language adoption in industry isn’t a sudden coup but a long campaign. C++ itself has evolved (C++11, C++14, C++17, C++20… adding modern conveniences like auto types, smart pointers, modules, and more). The language might be old, but it’s not stagnant or defenseless – it’s more like a grizzled warrior that’s seen every trick in the book. So when Carbon devs come racing in thinking C++ needs rescuing from its legacy misery, many C++ veterans respond with tongue-in-cheek bravado – just as in the meme, “Ambulance? Sure… for you.” The revolver here is figurative for C++’s enduring strengths and community resolve. In practical terms, that “gun” could represent the sheer performance of optimized C++ code, or the upcoming C++23 features that narrow the gap between C++ and newer languages, or simply the collective stubbornness of a million C++ engineers who aren’t about to rewrite their code because of the latest trend. The meme humorously encapsulates this standoff: Carbon’s concern flips into a surprise comeback for C++ that seasoned programmers find both funny and cathartic. After all, they’ve invested years mastering C++’s quirks – they’re not about to call the time-of-death just because Google drops a new project. Reports of C++’s demise are greatly exaggerated, and this meme gives that notion a perfect punchline.

Description

This meme uses the 'Two Buttons' format to illustrate a core conflict in software development. A cartoon character, sweating profusely, is shown with two large red buttons in front of them. The button on the left is labeled 'Ship Feature On Time', while the button on the right is labeled 'Write Clean, Maintainable Code'. The character's face is contorted in a look of extreme stress and indecision, perfectly capturing the pressure developers feel when caught between deadlines and code quality. This meme resonates deeply with experienced engineers, who are all too familiar with the trade-offs between short-term delivery and long-term technical debt. It's a humorous take on the constant battle against project management pressure and the desire for professional pride in one's work

Comments

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Anonymous ★ Top Pick The third, hidden button is 'Refactor later', which, when pressed, just adds a Jira ticket to the backlog that will be ceremoniously ignored for the next five years
  1. Anonymous ★ Top Pick

    The third, hidden button is 'Refactor later', which, when pressed, just adds a Jira ticket to the backlog that will be ceremoniously ignored for the next five years

  2. Anonymous

    “Carbon: ‘C++ is bleeding out!’ C++ veteran, cocking a revolver loaded with SFINAE, two-phase lookup, and move semantics: ‘Kid, I’ve buried every “C++ killer” since Java - better call that ambulance for yourself.’”

  3. Anonymous

    After 40 years of surviving Rust evangelists, Go advocates, and Zig enthusiasts, C++ developers have developed undefined behavior immunity and can segfault their way out of any assassination attempt - even one backed by Google's infinite resources

  4. Anonymous

    Carbon developers announcing their C++ successor is like showing up to a knife fight with a prototype - meanwhile, C++ has been in production for 40 years, survived countless 'replacements' (D, Rust, now Carbon), and still powers everything from your kernel to your game engine. Sure, Carbon promises memory safety and modern syntax, but C++ developers have seen this movie before: they'll still be writing `std::unique_ptr` long after the next 'C++ killer' fades into the Google Graveyard alongside Wave and Reader

  5. Anonymous

    Every few years someone pitches a C++ successor; then we remember the plugin ABI, custom allocators, and 20 years of template metaprogramming, and the roadmap quietly renames ‘migration’ to ‘interop’

  6. Anonymous

    Carbon: “We’ll replace C++.” C++ veterans: “Ping us when your ABI is stable and our 20‑year template zoo compiles faster under you - until then, we’re still shipping.”

  7. Anonymous

    Carbon devs OOM on a bullet; C++ vets realloc(&resilience, FOREVER);

  8. dev_meme 3y

    Random people: Carbon developers Carbon: This project is not ready for use, no compiler toolchain ready yet.

  9. Kademlia 3y

    From the main grapheneos developer

  10. @somerandomdough 3y

    Another failed "C++ killer"?

    1. dev_meme 3y

      Yep, second one from Google

    2. @dsmagikswsa 3y

      What are previous failed killers?

      1. @karim_mahyari 3y

        Probably golang? It's also going out of fashion.

        1. @dsmagikswsa 3y

          Isn’t golang replacing Java now?

          1. @karim_mahyari 3y

            Don't know about that

          2. dev_meme 3y

            How LOL?

            1. @dsmagikswsa 3y

              Ah…I mean in microservice perspective. Or correct me😂

              1. dev_meme 3y

                Java does what it does and that's Write Once Run Anywhere. The main magic piece of software is the JVM, we sometimes think a new language with fancy syntax replaced Java(say Kotlin) but forget that Kotlin runs on top of it. You can add any number of features to the JDK. And I understand why mostly JS and Python people intend to not like Java, but still Java does what it does, heavy multi-threading. Hadoop, Cassandra, Kafka are not written in Java for nothing. And no Golang was never to replace Java by any means, Golang is a systems programming language, not even meant to replace the WORA principle like the Scalas and Kotlins.

                1. @dsmagikswsa 3y

                  Thanks for your reply. Mate I learn from some points.

                  1. dev_meme 3y

                    You're most welcome. Afterall, we all learn each day.

      2. @somerandomdough 3y

        Rust as an example. It is not failed language itself but cannot replace C++ in all the cases. It rather replaced (or even extended) C on Linux systems.

        1. @RiedleroD 3y

          I don't think it was ever meant to replace anything. It's its own programming language with its own use-cases and such

          1. @somerandomdough 3y

            Probably, that's fair, we do not know what's inside Graydon Hore's head.

          2. dev_meme 3y

            Correct, Rust was never meant to replace anything. It was in some sense, the perfect language what you could design, learning from the mistakes of its predecessors and itself too. Rust kept memory safety and performance in mind, being systems language at the same time, which may make it replace a lot of the C/C++ code, but it wasn't designed as a successor as Carbon is being.

            1. @azizhakberdiev 3y

              C/C++ have "trust the developer" rule. They let you to commit memory leaks and write a shit, but it rather means giving a freedom. We cannot ban vehicles just because of accidents, same way as banning languages that are highly vulnerable for memory leaks

  11. @azizhakberdiev 3y

    1. denial 2. anger 3. bargaining 4. depression 5. acceptance

    1. @RiedleroD 3y

      lmao not gonna happen

      1. @azizhakberdiev 3y

        1. denial

        1. @RiedleroD 3y

          nft bros be like

        2. @sylfn 3y

          lmao

        3. @feedable 3y

          why would it happen

          1. @azizhakberdiev 3y

            Idk, why wouldn't

            1. @feedable 3y

              because there is no reason for it to happen

              1. @RiedleroD 3y

                if carbon is as good as they say, there would be a reason. however, no matter how good it is, it'll never happen because it's another lang to learn and to support in your setup

                1. @feedable 3y

                  well it's c++ with cute syntax anyway, why bother if you already have c++

                  1. @RiedleroD 3y

                    it's a smaller standard and there's less things to to wrong ig

                    1. @feedable 3y

                      it cannot be if it supports c++

                      1. @RiedleroD 3y

                        I'm guessing that it supports C++ the way Rust supports C++ - as clunky imports

                        1. @feedable 3y

                          rust supports cffi, in no way it supports c++, and carbon promises to support c++ in its entirety, including templates, exceptions, etc

                          1. @RiedleroD 3y

                            well then what the fuck is the point?

                            1. @feedable 3y

                              as if i know

                2. @azizhakberdiev 3y

                  Im js dev, no matter. It is 50/50 for me

    2. Deleted Account 3y

      does carbon have any useful features like rust?

      1. @azizhakberdiev 3y

        Im not constanting that carbon will become successful, but can be

  12. @azizhakberdiev 3y

    Imagine you are c++ newbie and somebody told you that carbon is cool. Why you would (not) choose it

    1. @feedable 3y

      why choose a "cool" language over industry standard?

      1. @azizhakberdiev 3y

        python

        1. @feedable 3y

          shellfish

        2. @RiedleroD 3y

          python is both imo

          1. @azizhakberdiev 3y

            Imo because of it is easier to find better hardware than a c++ dev

  13. @ahmubashshir 3y

    google is inventing c++ killer right and left...

    1. @ahmubashshir 3y

      Bjarne Stroustrup invented c++ for us all, and google's now trying to kill it...

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