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The Great 'Data' Pronunciation Civil War

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The image shows a wide city street, possibly in Thailand, completely overrun by hundreds of monkeys. The monkeys are divided into two large, chaotic groups facing off against each other in the middle of the road, halting traffic. White, bold, sans-serif text is superimposed over both factions. On the left, the text reads 'PEOPLE WHO SAY DATA', and on the right, the text also reads 'PEOPLE WHO SAY DATA'. This meme humorously visualizes the long-running and often intense debate within the tech and data science communities over the correct pronunciation of the word 'data' (i.e., 'day-ta' versus 'dah-ta'). By depicting both sides as a horde of squabbling monkeys, the meme satirizes the tribalism and absurdity of such a trivial 'holy war', suggesting that the argument is ultimately primitive and pointless. The original caption, 'Image with sound', enhances the joke by inviting the viewer to imagine the cacophony of the scene, mirroring the loud and endless nature of the pronunciation debate

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Anonymous ★ Top Pick I don't care if you say 'day-ta' or 'dah-ta', as long as you don't call it 'anecdote' and try to push it to production
  1. Anonymous ★ Top Pick

    I don't care if you say 'day-ta' or 'dah-ta', as long as you don't call it 'anecdote' and try to push it to production

  2. Anonymous

    Prod is gridlocked because the ‘day-ta’ and ‘daa-ta’ factions refuse to merge - apparently the hardest part of distributed systems is vowel consensus

  3. Anonymous

    The real chaos isn't the pronunciation debate - it's watching both camps unite to explain why your ETL pipeline pronounced 'data' as NULL for the third production deployment this week

  4. Anonymous

    The 'data' pronunciation debate is the perfect example of bikeshedding in tech: we'll spend 30 minutes arguing about whether it's 'day-ta' or 'dah-ta' in a meeting, then rubber-stamp a microservices architecture that'll cost us six months of refactoring. At least when the inevitable data migration fails, we'll all be united in our misery - regardless of how we pronounce the thing we just lost

  5. Anonymous

    Data vs. data-ta debate: the ultimate tech debt, accruing tribal interest since mainframe days - no refactor in sight

  6. Anonymous

    Our style guide resolved it: “day‑tuh” for reads, “dat‑uh” for writes - pronunciation is now eventually consistent

  7. Anonymous

    We’ve got Raft for consensus, but in standup it’s day-tuh vs dah-tuh while the dbt job backfills a petabyte because someone renamed a column in prod

  8. @tarasssssssssssssss 5y

    how? just how?

    1. @romanovich_dev 5y

      Could be emphasis

  9. @RiedleroD 5y

    explanation: deighta vs duhta

    1. @nuntikov 5y

      Writing transcriptions in English is such a mess. The language is phonetically inconsistent

      1. @RiedleroD 5y

        aye

        1. @RiedleroD 5y

          that's what IPA is for, but nobody can read that…

          1. Deleted Account 5y

            really

            1. @RiedleroD 5y

              virtually nobody at least

          2. @nuntikov 5y

            IPA is great, but I didn't even manage to find an IPA speller

            1. Deleted Account 5y

              just learn it :)

              1. @nuntikov 5y

                Man, this is like telling a person to just learn every possible sound a human speach can make. Oh wait, it's literally that

          3. @kitbot256 5y

            But you can drink it too

        2. @VlP_AI_TG 5y

          Только сидя на хуе, Можно сказать "ауе" (difficult to translate)

          1. @RiedleroD 5y

            Google translate: > Just sitting on a dick > You can say "aye" 🤨

            1. @VlP_AI_TG 5y

              Rhyme is lost(

            2. @beton_kruglosu_totchno 5y

              "Aye" is not what UK parliament says when they vote АУЕ is like ACAB in english, "Prison rules are for whole humanity" to be exact

              1. @RiedleroD 5y

                isn't АУЕ a criminal organisation?

                1. @beton_kruglosu_totchno 5y

                  it's not

                  1. @RiedleroD 5y

                    according to this wikipedia article, it is

                    1. @beton_kruglosu_totchno 5y

                      the english page is kind of missing the point, the russian page is more accurate

                    2. @beton_kruglosu_totchno 5y

                      in short, the most frequent usage of AUE is similar to ACAB

          2. @beton_kruglosu_totchno 5y

            Stress does not match, need to switch words in seconds line to make it rhyme.

      2. @choke_hazard 5y

        There is special phonetic symbols in English for that case

    2. Deleted Account 5y

      First one is right. (Second one is written daata btw)

  10. Deleted Account 5y

    'data 'dəjta like this?

    1. @nuntikov 5y

      Yep, it's IPA

    2. @dontmindmehere 5y

      Almost 'daetə (ae is one sound, I just don't have a symbol on my keyboard) 'deitə Trust me, I spent some time with this at the university

      1. Deleted Account 5y

        æ?

        1. @dontmindmehere 5y

          Correct

      2. @RiedleroD 5y

        question: what is the ' at the beginning for?

        1. Deleted Account 5y

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stress_(linguistics)

          1. @RiedleroD 5y

            thanks for the link!

        2. @dontmindmehere 5y

          It's the emphasis. In IPA the emphases are shown before the syllable. Also it may interest you that in English there are some words with multiple emphases in one word.

          1. @RiedleroD 5y

            interesting

          2. @RiedleroD 5y

            so garcon (french for boy) would be ɡaʁ'sɔ̃? Wiktionary says it's ɡaʁ.sɔ̃ - where's the difference?

  11. @VlP_AI_TG 5y

    English speakers are trying to understand what "aye" is

    1. @RiedleroD 5y

      aye is just "yes" to me - I've always used it that way

      1. @VlP_AI_TG 5y

        No, it's can understand only russian. "aye" isn't just "yes"

        1. @RiedleroD 5y

          "it's can understand only russian" is not a sentence lol

          1. @beton_kruglosu_totchno 5y

            amogus

            1. @VlP_AI_TG 5y

              Hahahahahahahhahaha, they isn't understand what "aye" is

              1. @VlP_AI_TG 5y

                and here you

              2. @azizhakberdiev 5y

                I'm sorry for correction, did you mean they don't understand?

    2. Deleted Account 5y

      Yes, but for sailors

  12. @VlP_AI_TG 5y

    It's fun)

  13. @DanteAlighieri0 5y

    My money is on " day ta "

    1. @RiedleroD 5y

      when the impostor is sus

    2. Deleted Account 5y

      Yep

  14. @VlP_AI_TG 5y

    with amogus

  15. @ItsTheShrimp 5y

    bri'ish people be like: da'a

    1. Deleted Account 5y

      I can confirm you're wrong

  16. Deleted Account 5y

    I'm British and I voted the American way

    1. @feskow 5y

      I labeled british and american based on british pronouncing "a" in words more like "uh", while american more like "aye" or "ey"

      1. Deleted Account 5y

        Ok

  17. Deleted Account 5y

    And duh != dar

    1. @RiedleroD 5y

      durr

      1. Deleted Account 5y

        Literally no one says duh (or durr) ta

        1. @RiedleroD 5y

          was a joke lol I can't tell the difference between dar-ta and duh-ta btw

          1. Deleted Account 5y

            Duh is pronounced "d uh" Dar is pronounced "d aa"

  18. Deleted Account 5y

    The wrong way is "darter"

    1. @dsmagikswsa 5y

      Australian accent

  19. @ZgGPuo8dZef58K6hxxGVj3Z2 5y

    I am also confused by that lol

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