A Literal Take on Staging a Moon Landing
Why is this TechHistory meme funny?
Level 1: Step by Step
Imagine you want to do something really big and difficult, like reaching a high place or finishing a huge task. You wouldn’t try to do it all in one giant leap, right? You would do it step by step. For example, think about climbing a tall staircase to a tower. If someone saw you stop at a couple of landings on the way up, and then they said, “Ha! Your climb was staged!” – implying you didn’t do it in one go – you’d probably laugh. Of course you used the stairs in stages; that’s the normal way to get to the top! That doesn’t mean you didn’t really climb or that it was fake. It just means you took it one stage at a time.
This meme is playing with that idea. Some people jokingly say the Moon landing was “staged,” meaning they think it was pretend. But the funny response is, “Yeah, it was staged – the rocket went up in stages!” In other words, the rocket that took astronauts to the Moon did it step by step: one part of the rocket pushed it up, then that part fell away, and the next part continued, and so on. It’s like using a few different ladders one after another to go really high, instead of one impossibly tall ladder.
In simpler terms, the joke is pointing out a silly mix-up: one person says “staged” meaning “fake,” and the other person answers using “staged” to mean “done in parts.” It’s funny because the second person answers a conspiracy theory with basic common sense. It’s like if a friend asked, “Did you cheat by doing your big project in pieces?” and you respond, “Well, doing a big project in pieces is just how you get it done, dude!” The tone is a bit cheeky and exasperated – basically saying “come on, that’s how it works!” Whether it’s sending a rocket to space or releasing a new app update, we do big things one step at a time. That’s not cheating; that’s just working smart. And that’s the whole joke: of course the Moon mission had stages, because that’s the only real way to pull off something that hard, just like you have to take big tasks one step at a time in life.
Level 2: Stage by Stage
Let’s break down the key concepts and jokes in this meme for a less experienced developer or someone new to DevOps. First, the term “staged” is being played with. In everyday English, saying something was “staged” can mean it was faked or set up, like a scene on a theater stage. That’s what moon-landing conspiracy folks mean when they say “the moon landing was staged” – they think it was all fake, done in a film studio. But in engineering (especially rocketry and software deployment), “staging” means doing things in steps or phases. It has nothing to do with fakery; it’s about splitting a huge task into manageable parts.
Rocket staging: The image in the meme is a Saturn V rocket, which was the real rocket that took astronauts to the Moon in the late 1960s. This rocket didn’t go to space in one piece; it was built in multiple sections called stages. The picture actually shows the Saturn V’s stages separated out: the big first stage at the left (with five huge engines at the bottom), then the second stage, then the third stage, and so on, getting smaller as you go right. When the Saturn V launched, the first stage fired and then dropped off when its fuel was used up, then the second stage took over and later dropped off, and finally the third stage pushed the spacecraft into orbit (and even towards the Moon). This is literally how all orbital rockets work – they shed empty weight by dropping stages. There’s even a common abbreviation SSTO meaning “Single Stage To Orbit,” which is kind of a holy grail idea; in practice, almost all real rockets need multiple stages to reach orbit because of physics. So, when someone asks “the moon landing was staged?”, an engineer might quip, “Yeah, of course it was multi-stage, that’s the only way to get to the Moon!”
Staging in software deployments: Now, in the world of software and DevOps, we also use the word “staging”, but in a different context. A staging environment is a testing ground for code that is nearly ready for the real world (production). Think of it as a dress rehearsal for your application. You might have heard of development, staging, and production environments:
- The development environment is where developers build and run the code on their own machines or a shared dev server. It might be a bit messy and have extra logging or debugging turned on.
- The staging environment is a place that’s set up to be almost exactly like production (the real app that users will use), but it’s not open to the public. We deploy new code to staging first to test it in a realistic setting with production-like data and configuration. If something breaks, it breaks on staging, not on the live site – which is a much safer way to catch issues.
- The production environment (prod) is the live, user-facing system. That’s where you only want well-tested, reliable code to go, because real customers or critical systems are using it.
So, deploying software often happens in stages: for example, build the software, then test it, then deploy to staging, test again with everything production-like, and finally promote it to production. This sequence is orchestrated by what’s called a CI/CD pipeline. CI/CD stands for Continuous Integration/Continuous Deployment. Continuous Integration is the practice of frequently merging code changes into a shared repository and automatically building/testing them (so you integrate everyone’s code continuously). Continuous Deployment (or Continuous Delivery, sometimes interchangeably) is about automatically deploying the code to further environments (like staging or production) once it passes tests. Tools like Jenkins, GitLab CI, GitHub Actions, or Azure Pipelines are used to define these pipelines. They often explicitly use the term stages or steps for each phase of the pipeline. For example, a simple pipeline might look like this pseudo-code:
# Example of a multi-stage CI/CD pipeline (simplified)
stages:
- name: Build
run: compile_code && run_unit_tests
- name: Staging Deploy
run: deploy_to_staging && run_integration_tests
- name: Production Deploy
run: deploy_to_production
In the above conceptual example, we have a Build stage (compile the code and run unit tests), then a Staging Deploy stage (deploy the new build to a staging environment and run integration tests), and finally a Production Deploy stage (push it out to real users). Each stage depends on success of the previous one, much like each stage of a rocket gets you further only if the last stage did its job. If something goes wrong in the Build or Staging stage, the pipeline stops and we don’t proceed to production. This way, we catch problems early. It’s a core part of DevOps practices to automate this flow and include all these stages to ensure quality and reliability.
Now, understanding all that, the meme’s joke becomes clearer: DevOpsHumor often mocks misunderstandings about these processes. The meme writer takes the goofy question “the moon landing was staged?” and answers it from an engineer’s perspective. The bottom text essentially says, “Yes, it was staged, but not staged as in faked – staged as in done with multiple stages, you fool!” It’s like a veteran engineer responding to a conspiracy theory with dry technical literalism. The juxtaposition is funny because the person asking thinks they’ve uncovered a hoax, but the answer is just basic engineering. It’s the same energy as a junior dev asking, “Wait, is our staging server just a fake version of the app?” and a senior dev replying, “It’s a test version, yes, but the code is real. We use staging to work out issues before the code hits real users. That’s standard practice, nothing suspicious about it.”
Finally, notice the format of the meme: white Impact font text at the top and bottom of the image – that’s the classic meme style for jokes or sarcastic statements. The top text poses a question (or setup), and the bottom text delivers the punchline (or answer). In this case, the punchline includes an expletive for emphasis, which is pretty common in tech memes to convey frustration or incredulity. The speaker in the meme is basically so tired of hearing the silly “it was staged” conspiracy that they drop a little profanity: “that’s how all orbital rockets fucking work, dude.” In DevOps terms, it’s like saying, “Yes, our deployment was staged – that’s how any sane deployment works, my friend.” The coarse language, while not formal, signals the passionate exasperation behind the statement. It’s the kind of blunt rejoinder you’d hear from an Ops engineer who has explained one too many times why we need a staging server or why we roll out software in phases.
So, to sum up the technical elements:
- Staged rockets: real engineering method where rockets drop sections in flight to reach space (as shown with the Saturn V’s pieces).
- Staging environment: a testing phase for code, acting as a dress rehearsal for production.
- CI/CD pipeline with multiple stages: the standard way DevOps teams safely build, test, and deploy code.
- The meme cleverly connects these, using the double meaning of “staged” to poke fun at conspiracy theorists and to nod at how critical staging is in any complex operation, whether it’s launching a rocket or deploying an app.
Level 3: Staging Ain’t Faking
This meme lands perfectly with experienced engineers and ops folks because it humorously demolishes a misunderstanding using pure technical common sense. The top caption, “the moon landing was staged?”, parrots a classic conspiracy theory insinuation that the Apollo moon landing was faked on a Hollywood set (as if it were all an elaborate stage production). But the meme’s punchline flips the meaning of “staged” on its head. The image of the Saturn V rocket split into its sequential sections sets up the literal truth: of course the Moon landing was “staged” – the rocket had multiple stages! The bottom caption’s blunt response – “yeah that’s how all orbital rockets fucking work dude” – reads like a world-weary DevOps engineer facepalming at an ignorant question. It’s the same energy as a senior developer answering a newbie who just asked if the “staging server” runs fake code: “Buddy, staging doesn’t mean fake, it means we do things in steps. That’s just how serious deployments work, full stop.” 😅
The humor here comes from the double meaning of staging. In conspiracy lingo, “staged” means fabricated or performed on a stage (like a hoax). In engineering, “staged” means divided into well-defined phases. Seasoned devs live by the latter meaning every day. We maintain staging environments, perform multi-stage deployments, and use build pipelines with distinct stages. So the meme takes the conspiracy theorist’s goofy question and answers with a techie’s literal truth. It’s the ultimate well, actually moment: The moon landing wasn’t a Hollywood stage play, it was a triumph of rocket staging. And by sly analogy, rolling out software to production is also a multi-stage process, not a one-shot miracle.
Anyone who’s been on a DevOps or SRE team likely chuckles at this because they’ve dealt with similar misconceptions. Think of a non-technical manager who asks, “Why can’t we just push this change straight to users? Why all these testing stages – is the ‘staging environment’ some fake thing?” The veteran ops engineer has to explain (hopefully sans expletives in front of the boss) that “Yes, the deployment is staged – that’s how we avoid blowing up the site. It’s not over-engineering, it’s literally standard engineering.” In other words, staging ain’t faking; it’s the only sane way to handle big challenges. The BuildPipeline and DeploymentPipeline tags hint at exactly this: our builds and deployments pass through multiple gates (compile, test, QA, stage, etc.) before reaching production. We do this because, much like a rocket ditching empty fuel tanks, we want to progressively eliminate bugs and uncertainties at each phase, ensuring the final step is as smooth as possible.
There’s also an undercurrent of shared frustration and pride in this meme. The frustration is at conspiracy theorists (or inexperienced developers) who confidently proclaim something absurd—like “you guys staged the moon landing / your staging server isn’t real.” The pride comes from knowing the real story: NASA engineers and software engineers alike use brilliant multi-stage designs to achieve the impossible. The DevOpsHumor here is effectively saying: “If you think using stages means it’s fake, you clearly have no clue about the craft.” After all, ContinuousIntegration and staged ContinuousDeployment pipelines might seem extravagant to the uninitiated, just as the Saturn V’s multi-stage design might seem over-engineered to someone who doesn’t understand rockets. But those who’ve been on-call during a 3 A.M. outage or watched footage of a rocket launch know that these staged steps are what stand between success and a spectacular fireball. 🚀🔥
In essence, the meme is a cheeky reminder that complex journeys—whether reaching the Moon or deploying a major release—aren’t accomplished in one giant leap. They’re done in deliberate stages. And anyone suggesting otherwise is going to get a sarcastic, possibly expletive-laced reality check from the folks who make those journeys happen. So the next time a junior dev says “Do we really need a staging server, or is that just for show?”, you have the perfect meme-worthy answer ready: “Yes, our deployment is staged… that’s how all successful launches work, dude.” 😉
Level 4: Delta-v and Deployment
At the deepest technical level, this meme bridges rocket science and DevOps in a brilliant pun. In orbital mechanics, multi-stage rockets are an absolute necessity due to the constraints of physics, specifically the Tsiolkovsky rocket equation. This fundamental formula dictates how much $\Delta v$ (change in velocity) a rocket can achieve based on its fuel mass and exhaust velocity. Put simply: a single giant rocket trying to reach orbit in one go would mostly be hauling the dead weight of empty fuel tanks and spent engines. To overcome this, engineers design rockets in stages. Each stage burns its fuel and then detaches, shedding mass so the next stage can accelerate the now-lighter rocket further. The Saturn V – the colossal launch vehicle that sent Apollo astronauts to the Moon – famously had three primary stages (S-IC, S-II, S-IVB). Each stage was like a chapter in an algorithm, with the first stage providing the brute force off the launch pad, the second taking over in thinner air, and the third delivering the final orbital insertion and trans-lunar push. This staged approach is the only efficient way to achieve orbital velocity without an exponentially impractical amount of fuel. In fact, no chemical rocket could reach the Moon (or even orbit) as a single unit; dropping spent stages is just how all orbital rockets work, period.
Now consider a CI/CD pipeline (Continuous Integration/Continuous Deployment) in software engineering. It’s amusingly analogous. You can think of each pipeline phase as a “stage” in a journey to reach production orbit. If we naively tried a single-stage-to-prod deployment – taking code from a developer’s machine straight to live production in one leap – we’d carry a lot of extra risk and complexity all at once (not to mention a huge chance of catastrophic failure, the software equivalent of a rocket exploding on the launch pad 🔥). Instead, seasoned DevOps engineers break the process into multiple stages: compile the code, run unit tests, deploy to a staging environment, run integration tests, maybe a canary release, and only then push to production. Each stage in the pipeline “drops” some of the burden. For example, after running exhaustive tests, you “drop” those testing concerns and move a leaner, validated build forward. This incremental approach is backed by a principle similar to rocket staging: manage exponential complexity by dividing it into sequential steps, discarding what’s no longer needed at each phase. It’s a convergence of physical law and software best practice – both rockets and robust software deployments require careful staging to reach their final destination. So when the meme retorts with “yeah, that’s how all orbital rockets fucking work, dude”, it’s highlighting a deep truth: whether launching code or a spacecraft, you don’t skip the stages if you intend to reach the Moon (or production) successfully.
Description
The meme features white, sans-serif text on a black background. At the top, it poses the question: 'the moon landing was staged?'. In the center is a diagram showing a multi-stage orbital rocket, like the Saturn V, in an exploded view, with its different sections separated to illustrate its construction. At the bottom, the punchline reads: 'yeah thats how all orbital rockets fucking work dude'. The image leverages a pun on the word 'staged'. It contrasts the common conspiracy theory that the moon landing was faked (staged like a performance) with the literal aerospace engineering definition, where rockets are built in stages that detach as they ascend into orbit. This form of humor, which relies on a technically accurate and pedantic interpretation of a common phrase, is highly relatable to engineers and technically-minded individuals who appreciate precision in language
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Of course the moon landing was staged; you can't just git push a 3,000-ton monolith into orbit on a single commit
Our CI pipeline has fewer stages than Apollo - maybe that’s why it never achieves escape velocity past QA
Just like how we tell junior devs our staging environment is 'exactly like production' - technically true, but everyone who's been around knows there's always something different when you actually launch
When someone questions your microservices architecture, just remember: even NASA knew that monolithic designs don't scale to the moon. Stage separation isn't just for rockets - it's the original 'break it into smaller, independently deployable components' pattern. The Saturn V had better service boundaries than most enterprise applications, and it literally had to work in a vacuum
Every launch is a release pipeline - shed dead mass each stage until only the artifact reaches prod; Tsiolkovsky basically invented multi‑stage Docker builds
Every orbital rocket is “staged” the same way our releases are - Tsiolkovsky calls it mass ratio; we call it decoupling and throwing half the stack away before prod
Moon landing 'staged'? Nah dude, that's just a multi-stage Docker build shedding layers post-liftoff
there are people who are still fooled by the nasa about moon landing. it was not staged? they say that the knowledge to the moon is forgotten! they can't land a fucking robot on the moon right now. how should i Believe that they went there and landed without any atmospheric air and had enough fuel to successfully launch their ship again from the moon and they did it many times? the spacex succeeded in vertical landing of rockets in the year 2017. how could they have done that 60 years before that on moon with no atmosphere and with that low level of technology at that time? come on. the cold war is over and american supermacy is ending. tell the world the truth. Comment deleted
the cold war is over and american supermacy is ending. tell the world the truth. Sir, I'm telegram channel with memes Comment deleted
In moon race NASA have almost unlimited fundings. just give NASA that level of funding back and see results, lol. Comment deleted
and unlimited drugs too Comment deleted
observe. the answer to that question also there's just very little reason to go to the moon rn. I mean what would you do there. it's of very little scientific and economic value. "colonize the moon" bruv we haven't even colonized the arctics yet Comment deleted
yeah. where is that knowledge now? i wrote logical observations and facts but people are calling me dumb just because I don't follow the crowd. we know little about space even right now. two astronauts were trapped beside the space station for six months and nobody could do anything. it took so much time to get them back safely. i just can't Believe that they went to moon 60 years ago and came back but they couldn't land a rocket vertically until 2017. the moon landing was obviously a marvel work of the Hollywood. nice work to those who made those footages. and those who made dumb people of that time believe this nonsense. Comment deleted
uhm, you don't know much about space. I know why nasa 60 years ago went to the moon and I know why modern rockets fail too. It's harder to land in an atmosphere than in space btw, obviously the lack of air getting in the way makes it easier. And modern rockets (at least by corporations) are focused on profitability, plus there's been a lot of "go fast and break things" injected from the techspace into airspace. people are calling you dumb because you assume that just because you don't know about something means that other people don't know about it either. Comment deleted
i see that there is no need to visit the moon anymore but but observing from the point of view of an engineer they achieved a lot with so much little fail rate. even now spacex's starship explodes multiple times with all the perfect engineering put to work and still can't complete it's test runs. how should I believe that they did that 60 years ago when supercomputers had 16kb of RAM and a lot less processing power? I think maybe you might reconsider your beliefs and maybe consider for a second that you are the one who is fooled and dumb. Comment deleted
How RAM size can affect precision? Comment deleted
it's more profitable to explode fast than to pay engineers for 10 years to launch 1 perfect mission Comment deleted
allegedly at least. I'm not convinced "go fast and break things" is the best strategy everywhere and that companies using that mantra are just successful due to unrelated reasons. Comment deleted
it keeps shareholders satisfied with things happening Comment deleted
dead news = stock goes down Comment deleted
I guess? that's only really a thing you have to think about if you've got shareholders tho, and we all know how terrible prioritizing short-term profits can be. Comment deleted
they just need to hype some stuff, Musk is a famous business showman Comment deleted
more importantly, musk is rich and he can just buy his way out of problems Comment deleted
He cant buy love tho Comment deleted
very true Comment deleted
Time, i mean time. They don't sell time anywhere. Comment deleted
speaking of perfect missions: james webb Comment deleted
three reasons: 1. nasa was trying to perfect a rocket with theoretical knowledge and then have a successful launch, while spacex and many others try to make many cheap rockets and see which ones work better in practice 2. spacex, as big as it is, still has only around 10% as much money as nasa does, not to mention the lack of existing talent, resources, connections and institutional knowledge. 3. they fundamentally try to achieve different things. nasa was about science, spacex is about making money. and as an aside, the board computers are actually quite inconsequential. I don't know what they have in modern rockets, but probably still something quite small to reduce weight. you just don't know that much RAM and processing power to steer a rocket, as weird as that sounds. remember that on a computer, math is quick and most other things are slow - a rocket control unit pretty much only does math. no complicated graphics, no audio processing, no complicated physics engine (in modern ones maybe they account for deformation in the rocket, but even that is quite inexpensive compared to modern games, especially when you make some effort of actually optimizing the damn thing) Comment deleted
Processing power was bottle neck at the time. Nowadays a fraction of that budget lead you there if your will is true. Sensors and actuators on the shelf. They did it with a PotatoPi, you have a raspberry. 😉😂 Comment deleted
It's still a bottleneck if you are boeing Comment deleted
Olny if you sideload Bitcoin mining on it to fund the expenses 😂😂 Comment deleted
all questions you might have are easily attributed to greed Comment deleted
I know why nasa 60 years ago went to the moon and I know why modern rockets fail too But wait, it's because they had scientists from nazi germany! /s Comment deleted
not even wrong tbh, germany was actually the leading country in science before the nazis took over and the smart scientists fled Comment deleted
Most of leading ones who were working on nuclear stuff tho. Which is even pre-war were understood by scientists how powerful it will be, and even they actually had lower expectation -- all first in-field expirements provided results much above theoretical predictions For nazis: due to crazy spendings on military research they were leader in rocket science with lots of unique knowledge Comment deleted
V1 rocket for example Comment deleted
I have to understand that they were trapped because --> Boeing <-- Comment deleted
Just a little reminder that Boeing whistleblowsers were found dead shortly before discussions in court I mean, there was more than a single person to who it happened Comment deleted
Uhmmmmm I would like you to look up why. There is various data that we can study on. Possibly even setting up some monitoring device on the moon for more shit. Currently what we are hoping is getting a better view how solar flares and the magnetic field of the earth interact. Not in a lab scale but in a real earth scale. Comment deleted
yes yes but I mean landing on the moon specifically Comment deleted
monitoring devices can be in orbit, landing not necessary Comment deleted
More efficient and reliable Comment deleted
doubt. but I'm not far enough into specifics to refute that Comment deleted
Yes landing there would allow us to not worry about orbital and saving energy on monitoring and real time transmission Comment deleted
Learnt knowledge cannot be forgotten. it'll be easy once the problem is solved. No hard funding is required now. The math is solved already, supercomputers in your pockets for a cent, what is left ? Comment deleted
Lol, moon programm is not about math. Its about building specialised factories that can manufacture rocket parts and test it. After moon programm a lot of that factories closed. Now you still need to rebuild it. Comment deleted
All that is already present, even better ones and newer generations. Most advanced materials and Comment deleted
Thats the thing, you cant just make saturn 5 parts from newest materials, because new materials have different properties, so you have to redevelop each part and whole rocket to make sure that everything will works. I dont remember exact keywords, but there was a story when chemical technology was lost just because some of ingredients now manufactured in more clean form and that break reaction. So company was forced to develop contamination stage to reborn this tecnology. And there is question, who pay for that ? Space is expensive as hell, why we should redevelop 60 years old rocket and launch it again to the moon ? What profit we get ? Give another argument that the flight to the moon happened ? Well, if the existing arguments weren't enough, then these arguments won't be enough either. Comment deleted
As the other guy mentioned, parts and materials change. It's like with food. You can't make your grandmothers chocolate cake like how she made it long ago. We have different egg sizes and quality, All ingredients are made from a new factory AND even the oven is new tech! So to make sure the cake still tastes good, you have to reinvent it to work with what you have now Comment deleted
Yes, but human tech today reached a point where no secret can be held anymore. You suddenly got alien materials? We have spectrometers to analyze the exact elements and quantities. Isn't that enough? We have microscopes capable of counting atoms. No excuses 😉👻 Comment deleted
And all of this cost a lot of money, lol. So, again, who should pay for saturn 5 reborn and why ? Comment deleted
I don't think it's due to cost if they are not doing it. Maybe there are other reasons, but it's not cost. Nowadays analysis instruments get so cheap that everyone can ask for a DNA inspection. There should be other reasons or i am too saturated with YouTube tech videos 😂😂 Comment deleted
Bro, money is primary reason for almost everything, lol. NASA definitely want building big rockets, but nobody want to give them money for it. Comment deleted
Why don't people remake old recipes with technology then? 🤨 Comment deleted
old recipes do get adjusted for new relative compositions if you foolishly follow the old recipe without a good context for how much egg is in the egg, you'll probably be off Comment deleted
It definitely can, especially if people that developped or discovered it are since retired or dead. For example France paused their nuclear programme for years (meaning mostly no new nuclear power plants), and they now have huge problems to bulid new ones, or even for the maintenance of existing ones Comment deleted
Nuclear pps are not really worth it. Too expensive for the outcome. Comment deleted
You will need to go deeper here, it's a shit hole Atom energy is among the cheapest ones (competes with location-dependent things like dams and gas-based plants) Comment deleted
Pov: Fossil fuels are not really produced of fossils. Those are just long chains of Carbon atoms formed in pressure deep under the ground. Carbon is one of the most abundant elements on any planet. Just like hydrogen, helium... Comment deleted
Even though requires massive initial investment, longer build times + risks Comment deleted
Maintenance costs: am i a joke to you? 😂😂 Comment deleted
That's the thing With current amount of regulations, maintance cost of reactors and plant itself is not far from being neglectable Comment deleted
If you mean utilization of radioactive waste and this kind of maintanance, then I would advice to check latest news (for prototypes from 20-40 years ago) of full-cycle plants where radioactive waste is fully reused and clean fuel is only being used to a small degree for start of reaction Comment deleted
that's not how that works. remember that the romans had proper plumbing, and the following civilisations didn't or at most used the little plumbing that was set in stone (literally) and continued to be functional. remember that the greeks before them were completely fine with gay people and such (the romans fucked that one up) and remember that the people before them whose name I forgot had writing, and after a civilisational collapse just up and forgot how to do it, meaning the greeks had to reinvent writing (well, more like import it from someplace else, but yknow) Comment deleted
We have easy way to explain it "know-how" - those are easily worth millions and more, often not even being patented to avoid being stolen Comment deleted
So you mean NASA engineers don't know how to properly document and comment on their code? Comment deleted
You really think "code" is that important for a space program? Comment deleted
We already have the infrastructure, all left is to pick the parts off the shelf. You know what I mean We have full CAE (computer aided engineering) workflow Comment deleted
We already have the infrastructure This is exactly what everyone is trying to say - we don't Just a reminder: before spacex almost all engines for serious rockets were using RD-180 or RD-181 bought from russia. Think about it Comment deleted
This is like saying america has no CPU building knowledge, because all is produced in Taiwan and china now. Think twice... Bro, almost all the CPUs are designed in UK and US. Comment deleted
Sir, you just implied RD-180/181 being designed in US, when it's smaller and weaker export version of RD-170/171 and fully designed in soviet era / russia. Fun fact: russia itself never used RD-180 Comment deleted
Note that the design of a CPU layout is really different from the actual production of these layouts. So while the US may know how to design CPU, that doesn't means they're able to produce it, at least not for advanced technology nodes Comment deleted
I like good comments from profiles like yours Comment deleted
Nvidia is an American company and is producing new graghic chips in the US now Comment deleted
> Nvidia producing chips in US False Comment deleted
I think someone is not following the fresh news Comment deleted
To plan to build a plant is not to start producing chips Modern plants are built on 3-8 years timescale Comment deleted
Common, AMSL company is producing 15 EUV chip making instruments each year. The time scale you noted is for stone age Comment deleted
ASML makes machines Comment deleted
For lithography They do not produce chips itself Comment deleted
EUV machines are the bottle neck. All left is playing with dust and mud Comment deleted
wtf, are you serious? What are stupid company that ASML -- all those dozens years they might have justadded dust and mud to kill TSMC and Samsung but decided to just sell machines Comment deleted
Even after message edit, it's not just playing with dust and mud It's not even just dust and mud, go check youtube video about CPU's design process, lection on grades of silicon purity, and how AMD totally failed with production lines so they had to work with TSMC and even then they failed many times before achieved somewhat production acceptable quality level Comment deleted
TSMC is also an American company. Comment deleted
No, this is entire point! Comment deleted
It's literally T in their name! Ok, looks like I'm being trolled there Comment deleted
So where do Chip dyes come from? Taiwan? No Comment deleted
Look, you are really curious but probably just a little bit too early in career for that discussion Likely I shouldn't have joined the discussion when you brought writting code as key obstabcle to repeat of moon program but I'm just a human and got triggered Real life things are much more complicated than code and often do not have straightforward answers. To be honest, code, even in most complicated legacy systems, is one of most straightforward problems you can encounter in real life Due to my background, I couldn't right away give an advice with educational videos about CPU arch design process and how production lines to work on two-didgit nm and lower are being build and maintained. But even surface knowledge you can get on English would help to get better perspective. Pretty sure that there should be some great intro videos into the field on Arabic too But discussing dies production is not trade secret, it's kinda vice versa - fully public knowledge which doesn't make sense in "know-how" discussion Comment deleted
and as somewhat of AMD hater in terms of QA: percentage of defective goods that reach consumer still was unacceptably high just few years ago Comment deleted
This is news you're talking about? https://blogs.nvidia.com/blog/nvidia-manufacture-american-made-ai-supercomputers-us/ Comment deleted
Then there's still a difference between theorically knowing how to do it, having the tools and processes to do it, and having a good enough yield (i.e. low failure rate) to be economically viable Comment deleted
There WAS RS-25 which was terrible economically, and people who knew how to build it were quickly gone -- there's not too many space shuttles launched in the previous 30 years Comment deleted
داداش شرفمونو نبر الان همه دنیا فک میکنن ایرانیا اسگلن Comment deleted
Please, use English around there 🙏 Comment deleted
Oh sorry about that, you are right I just warned him to not be dumb in his own language. Comment deleted
It seems probable now, and I really hope that in our lifetime we will get relatively affordable way to travel to/through space as a mere mortals Comment deleted
There are a lot of people who denies, etc Only stupid people would generalize statements of a few people to entire nation Comment deleted
Dadash, stop making it table. Name no keshvar anywhere. Comment deleted
80 IQ take Comment deleted
Nobody cares that you're too dumb to understand how it worked, Akshit Comment deleted
…akshit? Comment deleted
Akshit Comment deleted
Kick for troll or no? This is their only message Comment deleted
let them stay, whatever Comment deleted
I mean, they don't use TG anymore so free kick potentially Comment deleted
yeah still don't do that Comment deleted
Okay, fair I guess. Admins will handle the trolls then Comment deleted
I don't like to ban smalltime trolls. I only ban people when they become a problem Comment deleted
Fr they only faked it so they can claim "they have pictures" of a "spherical earth" Comment deleted
something about flat earthers all around the globe Comment deleted
LMFAO Comment deleted
That actually makes sense. I'm on your side on this. Comment deleted
Sarcasm? Comment deleted