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The Unforeseen Downside of Apple's M1 Thermal Efficiency
Hardware Post #2871, on Mar 30, 2021 in TG

The Unforeseen Downside of Apple's M1 Thermal Efficiency

Why is this Hardware meme funny?

Level 1: No More Hand Warmer

Imagine you used to have a laptop that got warm whenever you played a game or did homework on it. You might even put your cold hands on it in winter to warm them up a little, like a cozy hot water bottle. That warmth was basically the computer’s extra energy turning into heat. Now, you get a brand new fancy laptop – and this one never gets warm at all, no matter how hard you use it. It stays as cool as a piece of metal at room temperature. That’s awesome because it means the laptop is really efficient and never noisy, but on a chilly day your hands can’t get toastied by it anymore. In the meme, a developer’s joking that Apple should just include a hand-warmer in the keyboard since the new MacBook is too good at staying cool. It’s funny because usually people complain when their computer gets hot – but here he’s half-seriously “complaining” that his super-cool computer won’t get hot! It’s like if you had a light bulb that doesn’t get hot at all: great for safety, but you can’t warm your hands on it in the winter. The humor comes from the surprise twist – the laptop works so well and stays so cool that the person jokingly misses the old problem (the heat) that we used to dislike. In simple terms, the computer is so cool that it’s literally leaving the user’s hands cold, and that’s a silly, unexpected thing to happen!

Level 2: Fanless and Freezing

Let’s break down why this tweet is funny in simpler terms. The M1 MacBook Air is a laptop made by Apple that uses the new Apple M1 chip. This chip is super efficient – it does a lot of work with very little electricity. In older laptops (especially ones with Intel chips), doing a lot of work would make the computer really hot. You’d feel warmth on the keyboard or the bottom of the laptop when you were, say, playing a game, compiling code, or running a bunch of apps. Those laptops had to use a fan (a little built-in cooling fan, like a tiny blower) to cool down the CPU when it got too hot, kind of like a mini fan in a desktop PC but smaller. You might have heard the fan spin up with a whooshing noise when the laptop was working hard – that was the machine trying to vent heat. The heat wasn’t a feature; it was wasted energy, a side effect of the processor using a lot of power. However, as developers, we got used to our machines running warm. On a cold day, you might rest your palms on the toasty laptop and think, “well, at least my hands are not freezing!”

Now, the M1 MacBook Air has no fan at all. This is called a passively cooled design. “Passive cooling” means the device stays cool through its design (materials and efficient chips) without needing an active fan blowing air. The M1 chip is so efficient that it doesn’t produce much heat, so Apple was able to remove the fan entirely – one less moving part, and the laptop stays completely silent. Silent and cool are great for a computer, because it means it’s not wasting energy or making distracting noise. But here’s the goofy downside the tweet jokes about: if the laptop never gets warm, then in the winter your hands stay cold on the keyboard! The tweet by Jason Miller says: “The M1 Air should come with a keyboard heater. My hands are cold because the machine never gets warm.” He’s highlighting that the MacBook never heats up enough to warm his fingers.

To put it simply, older laptops inadvertently worked like a little hand-warmer while you typed, due to their inefficient chips. The new M1 MacBook Air is extremely energy efficient (it uses so little power for the same work that it doesn’t generate much heat at all). That’s a big win for technology – it means longer battery life and a more comfortable laptop experience (no hot lap, no loud fan noise). But it’s also a funny change in the developer experience: a lot of programmers are used to feeling some warmth from their machine after running big tasks. Now they touch the M1 Air and it’s just cool metal, even after hours of work. It can be a bit surprising! Jason jokingly suggests adding a “keyboard heater” – basically a tiny heater under the keys – since the laptop itself won’t warm his hands anymore. This isn’t a real request, it’s just a humorous way to say “this laptop stays cold all the time.”

Think about Apple Silicon (the term for Apple’s own chips like the M1) versus the old Intel chips as the difference between an LED light bulb and an old incandescent bulb. The old bulb (like Intel) would get hot when turned on, because it wasted a lot of energy as heat, whereas the LED (like the M1) shines bright while staying cool to the touch. Apple’s M1 MacBook is the LED of laptops – super effective with minimal heat output. For developers, this is almost magical. They can compile code or run their development servers on a thin MacBook Air and it remains cool and silent. Many devs on Twitter and other forums were amazed by this, sharing their experiences and jokes. The tweet’s metrics (like 560 likes) show that lots of people found this relatable and funny. It’s a form of TechHumor or HardwareHumor that pokes fun at how far hardware efficiency has come.

To illustrate the difference:

Older MacBook (Intel era) New M1 MacBook Air
Has a fan that turns on (noisy) No fan at all (completely quiet)
Gets hot under heavy use Stays cool even under load
Warm keyboard (accidentally a hand-warmer) Cool keyboard (no warmth output)
Shorter battery life (uses more power) Longer battery life (uses less power)

In the table above, you can see why the experience is so different. The M1 model is cool and quiet thanks to low power silicon design. So, the meme is basically a developer saying: “Wow, my new Mac doesn’t even heat up. I kind of miss the warmth, haha!” It’s a playful compliment to Apple. Instead of complaining the laptop is too hot (which is what we used to do), he’s mock-complaining that it’s too cold. This reversal makes it humorous. Even if you’re new to these terms, you can understand the picture: imagine a laptop so advanced that it never even gets warm to the touch. That’s what happened with Apple’s M1 MacBook Air, and the dev community found it both impressive and amusing.

Level 3: No Heat, New Problem

For veteran developers, this meme hits on a shared experience with a twist. Historically, doing serious dev work on a laptop – like compiling a large codebase, running multiple Docker containers, or spinning up a local Kubernetes cluster – would turn your machine into a space heater. We’ve all felt that hot rush of air from a MacBook’s vents or the toasty warmth of the keyboard after a long coding session. Laptops getting hot (and loud, with fans blasting) was basically background noise in the developer lifestyle. In fact, many of us joked about “fry-an-egg” levels of heat when Xcode or Visual Studio was crunching away. The older Intel-based MacBook Airs and Pros could become uncomfortably warm on your lap and often doubled as impromptu hand-warmers during late-night coding marathons. You might hear a colleague quip, “my laptop’s so hot it’s keeping my coffee warm.” Overheating was a pain point: it could mean thermal throttling (slowing down to cool off) and a noisy fan distracting you while you’re deep in thought. So for years, the dream was a laptop that stays cool and silent under pressure.

Enter Apple’s M1 MacBook Air. When this tweet was posted (around early 2021, just after the M1’s debut), devs were in awe of how the new M1 machines barely got warm even when pushed hard. The M1 Air has no fan at all – a totally silent machine. At most, it gets slightly warm under sustained load, but nowhere near the palm-burning temps we used to tolerate. Developers started noticing funny side effects of this new efficiency. Jason Miller (the dev in the tweet) pokes fun at one such side effect: cold hands. In a chilly office or on a winter day, an older laptop acted like a subtle radiator - the keyboard would heat up from the CPU’s exertion, keeping your fingers comfortably warm. It wasn’t an advertised feature by any means (if anything it was a flaw we learned to live with), but we got accustomed to it. Now along comes Apple Silicon, solving the heat problem so well that this unintended “feature” has vanished. DeveloperExperience_DX has improved dramatically – no more fan noise, no more scorched thighs – but there’s a tiny part of us that reminisces about the cozy feeling of a warm keyboard on a cold morning.

That’s why this meme lands as tech humor. It’s a classic case of “be careful what you wish for.” We begged for cooler, more efficient laptops, and Apple delivered in spades. The M1 MacBook Air stays cool and quiet, even when compiling huge projects or running a zillion Chrome tabs. The punchline? It stays too cool – so much so that a dev jokingly “demands” Apple include a built-in keyboard heater to compensate. It’s an absurd request on the surface, which is exactly why it’s funny. No one actually expects a laptop to ship with a heater (that would just drain battery and ruin the efficiency), but the hyperbole highlights how low_power_silicon has flipped our expectations. Instead of griping about hot laptops, we’re mock-complaining about cold ones. It’s a lighthearted, tongue-in-cheek way to praise the M1 MacBook Air’s passive cooling design: the machine is so thermally well-behaved that the only “issue” you can find is that it won’t warm your hands in winter.

Every experienced coder reading this likely smirked because they remember the bad old days of laptop heat. The humor also taps into the culture of developer Twitter humor. Tweets like this often celebrate tech breakthroughs by joking about side effects. Jason’s tweet garnered hundreds of likes because fellow devs felt that “haha, so true!” moment – a communal recognition that Apple’s M1 is insanely cool (literally and figuratively). It’s a bit of collective glee at how far hardware has come. The AppleM1 wasn’t just a minor upgrade; it dramatically improved battery life and eliminated fan noise and heat for everyday dev workloads. So this meme is a playful victory lap for Apple’s engineering: we’re joking that the M1 MacBook Air is so good that we have to invent a “problem” (cold hands) that nobody would have imagined before. It also subtly jabs at how spoiled we are by modern tech – we solved one of the biggest annoyances (overheating laptops), and immediately we find humor in missing the annoyance. AppleSilicon made our laptops sleek, silent, and cool, and we’re responding with a classic developer snark: “Nice, but now I kind of miss the heat.” It’s an inside joke on how tech progress can change even our small daily routines, like warming up our fingers while coding. In summary, for the senior dev crowd, this tweet is a wry nod to the ironies of progress: the MacBook Air is no longer a hand-warmer, and that’s both fantastic and weirdly nostalgic at the same time.

Level 4: RISC & Chill

Apple’s M1 chip represents a paradigm shift in laptop hardware architecture. It’s built on an ARM-based RISC (Reduced Instruction Set Computer) design, which prioritizes doing simple operations extremely efficiently and quickly. In contrast, the older Intel chips in previous MacBook Airs were CISC (Complex Instruction Set Computer) processors that often ran hotter under load. The M1’s efficiency starts at the transistor level: fabricated with a cutting-edge 5-nanometer process, its transistors are incredibly small and tightly packed, reducing the energy needed for each calculation. Less energy used means less wasted energy as heat – a direct consequence of physics and thermodynamics. Essentially, every computation leaks a little heat (thanks to things like resistance in circuits and Landauer’s principle in information theory), but the M1 does far fewer joules of work for the same tasks compared to older chips. The result? The chip sips power and barely breaks a sweat, thermally speaking.

This extreme efficiency lets the M1 MacBook Air rely entirely on passive cooling – it has no fan at all. Traditionally, high-performance laptops needed whirring fans and heatsinks to dissipate heat when the CPU was crunching data. The M1’s performance-per-watt is so high that even when compiling code or running heavy development workloads, its power draw stays low enough that the slender aluminum chassis alone can spread and radiate the heat adequately. There’s no need for a fan to blast hot air out because the thermal design power (TDP) of the M1 is kept within a range that the casing can handle silently. In other words, the M1 is engineered to never produce more heat than the MacBook Air’s frame can silently dissipate. It’s a bit of thermal zen: the laptop remains cool to the touch under workloads that used to turn Intel-based machines into toasty little griddles.

Deep in the M1’s architecture, Apple integrated multiple specialized components – high-efficiency cores, performance cores, a GPU, unified memory, and neural engine – onto one SoC (System on a Chip). By doing so, data doesn’t have to travel far, and tasks can be handled by the most efficient part of the chip for the job. For example, the four “efficiency cores” handle background tasks using microscopic amounts of power, while the four beefier performance cores tackle heavy code compilation or video encoding without breaking a thermal sweat. The unified memory architecture means the CPU and GPU share the same memory pool on the chip, avoiding expensive data transfers to RAM chips across the board – those transfers on older architectures consumed extra power and emitted extra heat. All these design choices minimize energy waste. Apple essentially took the power-frugal philosophy of smartphone chips (where a hot device would be unacceptable) and applied it to a laptop that still delivers desktop-class speed.

The upshot is that the M1 chip stays so cool that, unlike older laptops, it never turns the keyboard into a warm plate. Seasoned engineers are astonished: we’re used to the idea that serious computing requires lots of electricity and thus lots of heat. The M1 defies that expectation by leveraging silicon design and semiconductor physics to keep temperatures low. It’s a triumph of modern chip engineering – a laptop CPU that can compile code, run Docker containers, or execute intensive tests, all while remaining nearly room temperature at the surface. The tweet jokingly demands a “keyboard heater” precisely because the M1 Air’s thermal efficiency is almost overkill: the machine is so advanced that it has eliminated a familiar (if unintended) comfort – the warmth emanating from a busy computer. When technology leaps forward this far, it can even subvert the age-old second law of thermodynamics trope in computing (“fast chips are hot chips”) and create a new kind of first-world developer problem. In short, Apple’s cool-running silicon has flipped the script: we’ve entered an era where your laptop might be too cold rather than too hot, a thought that would have seemed absurd just a few years ago.

Description

This image is a screenshot of a tweet from user Jason Miller (@_developit). The tweet, which has received 33 comments, 11 retweets, and 560 likes, reads: 'The M1 Air should come with a keyboard heater. My hands are cold because the machine never gets warm'. The humor stems from a 'first-world problem' created by a significant technological advancement. For years, developers using high-performance laptops, particularly Intel-based MacBooks, became accustomed to the machines running extremely hot under heavy load, effectively turning the keyboard into a hand-warmer. The Apple M1 chip, however, is so thermally efficient that it performs intensive tasks without generating significant heat. This tweet ironically frames this major engineering achievement as an inconvenience, a sentiment that resonates with experienced developers who remember the era of scorching hot laptops

Comments

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Anonymous ★ Top Pick My old Intel Mac could compile code and brew coffee simultaneously. The M1 Mac compiles before the water even starts boiling. It's a performance win but a caffeine workflow disaster
  1. Anonymous ★ Top Pick

    My old Intel Mac could compile code and brew coffee simultaneously. The M1 Mac compiles before the water even starts boiling. It's a performance win but a caffeine workflow disaster

  2. Anonymous

    The M1 Air is so thermally efficient I have to compile Chromium under Rosetta just to get my keyboard above room temperature

  3. Anonymous

    After decades of optimizing thermal throttling algorithms and fan curves, we've finally achieved peak efficiency: a laptop so cool it requires a separate heating budget for your home office. The real innovation isn't the 20-hour battery life, it's discovering we've been using Intel chips as expensive hand warmers all along

  4. Anonymous

    The M1 Air's thermal efficiency is so good it violates the fundamental law of legacy laptop ownership: 'Thou shalt warm thy hands upon the altar of inefficient x86 architecture.' Now developers who spent years using their Intel MacBook Pros as lap warmers during winter coding sessions face an existential crisis - do they optimize for performance-per-watt or BTUs-per-compile? It's the ultimate engineering trade-off: you can have either a laptop that runs cool and silent for 18 hours, or one that doubles as a space heater. Apple Silicon chose violence against cold hands

  5. Anonymous

    Back on Intel, “npm install” doubled as HVAC; M1 finally enforced separation of concerns

  6. Anonymous

    Remember when 'make -j' doubled as a keyboard heater? M1 turned that feature into a bug

  7. Anonymous

    M1 Air: So efficient it achieves thermodynamic victory by generating zero waste heat - your fingers pay the entropy tax

  8. @exhausted 5y

    meanwhile my i7 does same job as my teapot

  9. @Nufunello 5y

    Because, it does not work?

    1. @cheburgenashka 5y

      Because it does not need to run thousands of legacy ops and instructions translations per cycle like any x86 arch

      1. Deleted Account 5y

        well, it kinda needs tho

        1. @cheburgenashka 5y

          How and why? If it is intended to run on system that was designed for it (and x86 soft is out of that ship)

          1. Deleted Account 5y

            you do understand that it's useless without x86 software

            1. @cheburgenashka 5y

              Apple doesn't think it owe you something. They're decided to ditch arch they were depending upon. Developers for Mac will recompile soft using new arch will GTFO. Take an infamous docker for an example. Now when apple monopoliesed entire vertical bottom—top it is no longer an issue. OS will be supported, Apple's soft will be, thus who make money from selling soft for Macs will adopt M1 arch no questions asked.

              1. Deleted Account 5y

                rozetta2 does exist, and it does run x86 code, doing the asme shit x86 natively did in hardware

                1. @RiedleroD 5y

                  stop it, you're not gonna get through to an apple fanboy. Let him be in his misery.

                  1. Deleted Account 5y

                    it's kinda fun seeing apple fanboys seething over the issues that are already have been solved

                    1. @RiedleroD 5y

                      you think it's fun? Alright, you do you then.

                      1. Deleted Account 5y

                        it's sad too, but also fun

                    2. @cheburgenashka 5y

                      I do hate Apple but do respect the fact they had the balls to cut the tradition of carrying support for a 40 year old tech just because soft is not ready to move on. X86 is overly complicated. And it is a bit BDSM to keep going. I'm hoping after Apple there will be a similar shift in other domains as well.

                      1. @RiedleroD 5y

                        they tried to combat x86 with powerPC and then dropped it because they have no balls

                        1. @cheburgenashka 5y

                          They didn't had a capacity to compete but not anymore

                          1. @RiedleroD 5y

                            they even had an emulator for X86 software back then, they definitely had the capacity.

                            1. @cheburgenashka 5y

                              But AFAIK PowerPC was desktop only oriented?

                              1. @RiedleroD 5y

                                so ist x86.

                                1. @RiedleroD 5y

                                  it was invented specifically to combat x86

                  2. @cheburgenashka 5y

                    MegaLoL! 🤣 I'm exact opposite of a gay, just voicing a reasonable opinion. Why would you expect Apple continue to support X86 when they looking for an alternative for more than 10 years activly? Fighting with chips manufacturers especially hardcore in past 5 years.

                    1. @RiedleroD 5y

                      hopping from one architecture to another isn't actively looking for an alternative. So far, they've used PowerPC, X86, ARM, and now M1. I'm not very impressed.

                      1. @cheburgenashka 5y

                        Isn't M1 a continuation of ARM?

                        1. @RiedleroD 5y

                          yes/no. It's similar, but they didn't want to pay the humongous licensing fees for ARM.

                          1. @cheburgenashka 5y

                            Also they reworked it into SoC and other stuff

                            1. @RiedleroD 5y

                              umm… every ARM chip is a SoC. Aside from a few mobile laptops with windows on them, but we know how good those are.

              2. @dugeru42 5y

                Apple doesn't think it owe you something.

      2. @doodguy1991 5y

        This is a fat lie. That's not why it runs cold. The damn thing is on a 5nm process and when on battery it only uses 5 watts.

  10. @DavidGarciaCat 5y

    The M1 Pro 13" has the same problem: I don't remember hearing the fan, not once, and it doesn't warm even using software that uses all M1 cores

    1. @RiedleroD 5y

      my intel pentium doesn't get hot either. I don't even need a fan for it. TravelMate B117M, look it up.

      1. @PsyDuckTape 5y

        My i5 never get warm as well.

  11. @ANTICHRISTUS_REX 5y

    This was working, and got burned by a hot person.

  12. @cheburgenashka 5y

    Well, anyway mobile market growing wild and the gap between 2 world's shrinks. You kinda expect that there will be only one arch uniting both. It seems like ARM alike it will be and Apple push in the same direction. Anyway I detest the fact X86 is heavy AF for legacy reasons ONLY

    1. @RiedleroD 5y

      x86 isn't perfect, but there are reasonable alternatives to making up your own chipset. Apple only did that to be unique again and seem like they have the upper hand while also avoiding fees from using the already well established ARM architecture.

      1. Deleted Account 5y

        don't they use arm cores like their mobile socs too?

        1. @RiedleroD 5y

          specify who you mean with 'they' please

          1. Deleted Account 5y

            apple

            1. @RiedleroD 5y

              idk. I believe they used ARM in their phones, but that might change next generation.

              1. @cheburgenashka 5y

                They used X86 not so long ago but after fighting with chips manufacturers the began switching

                1. @RiedleroD 5y

                  ye because they're too greedy to pay licensing fees.

                  1. @cheburgenashka 5y

                    Apple is greedy but manufacturers are not a lesser evil. I got my insider sources from guys who serves big boys of the chips forgers.

                    1. @RiedleroD 5y

                      ya no shit. Companies are greedy? Tell me something new lol.

                      1. @cheburgenashka 5y

                        Manufacturers really didn't play nice. And even list the court in few cases, so bad they were. Much worth than Apple. Well, anyway... Let's see Linuxoids running on M1

                        1. @RiedleroD 5y

                          > didn't play nice you seen the shit apple's been doing for the past 10 years? > Let's see Linuxoids running on M1 I'm sure there'll be linux in less than half a year running on that thing. And doom ofc.

                          1. @cheburgenashka 5y

                            Don't wanna compare duces. I want a lappy without noise of the fan or frying pan temperatures.

                            1. @RiedleroD 5y

                              I have that

                              1. @RiedleroD 5y

                                200€, Travelmate B117M

                            2. @dugeru42 5y

                              Even my amd laptop is cool with that

      2. @cheburgenashka 5y

        Dude, it seems like their shit is way much more powerful and efficient than alternatives in both X86 and ARM lands (despite the fact that PR probably bullshitted a lot but still seems like it way more efficient in consumption of moving electrons)

        1. @RiedleroD 5y

          Exactly. It seems that way. Apples PR is way more powerful than their hardware designers, unfortunately.

          1. @dugeru42 5y

            Its almost like they are fighting each other

  13. @doodguy1991 5y

    AMD can produce a 5 watt TDP CPU as well if they wanted

  14. @cheburgenashka 5y

    No, it's not. M1 (like other ARMs) get the job and do the job. X86 never do the go straight to job. They pass it into a vast factory full of pipeline synchronisation, and legacy instructions set support. Like a Royal family, not all of their members needed, but you support them and their legacy as long as they do exist. This is why in terms of power consumption, it's like comparing a motorcycle to a tractor. Yeah, sure, the tractor can lift heavier weight, but if you divide that weight across motorcycles — they'll win both the race and the milage per unit of fuel.

    1. @RiedleroD 5y

      …you have no idea how processors work, do you?

      1. @RiedleroD 5y

        or how fast tractors can be

        1. @ANTICHRISTUS_REX 5y

          [SARCASM]You have no idea how the edit button works, do you?[SARCASM]

        2. @cheburgenashka 5y

          Or you about how much fuel they drain per single mile or km.

          1. @RiedleroD 5y

            definitely more than a motorcycle, he's right in that one.

    2. Deleted Account 5y

      i wonder why we don't have motorcycle fleets in fields...

      1. @RiedleroD 5y

        imagine that lol

        1. @RiedleroD 5y

          just some farmers on motorcycles dragging whatever the tractor is supposed to drag

        2. Deleted Account 5y

          to be fair, i don't like x86 either, but i reeally don't like how apple did their arm processor

          1. @RiedleroD 5y

            same. I would've praised them if they adopted RISC-V or something similar, but noo, they had to do their own thing.

            1. Deleted Account 5y

              i think they would've fucked up riscv too

              1. Deleted Account 5y

                the whole purpouse of m1 is to restrict the user and give power to apple

                1. @RiedleroD 5y

                  and to have something new for the marketing team

                  1. Deleted Account 5y

                    yes

                  2. @RiedleroD 5y

                    they basically went "look at this well-established licenseless standard that almost every application out there runs on. Now look at our new standard we made without any standardisation organisation or other tech companies, probably in less than a week, and mostly copied from ARM."

                    1. @RiedleroD 5y

                      to be fair, the x86 architecture was made by two intel employees in two weeks without any outside help as well (at least I've heard that), but that's just repeating other people's mistakes at this point.

                    2. Deleted Account 5y

                      but iirc m1 actually went ahead and licensed arm architecture for their chips

                      1. @RiedleroD 5y

                        wait, wdym? They paid for the ARM license?

                        1. Deleted Account 5y

                          yes

                          1. @RiedleroD 5y

                            bruh. That defeats the whole purpose of a new RISC-based architecture. I thought they did it to avoid paying the huge licensing fees ARM has.

                            1. Deleted Account 5y

                              nah, that "new architecture" is not like x86 architecture, but more like haswell arcitecture

                              1. @RiedleroD 5y

                                so copied from intel again? How does ARM fit into that? I'm confused.

                                1. Deleted Account 5y

                                  nono, i meant the scale, not that they literally copied it

                                  1. @RiedleroD 5y

                                    still confused

                                    1. Deleted Account 5y

                                      think isa and actual core design

                                      1. Deleted Account 5y

                                        like zen2 and skylake, both x86, but different architectures

                                        1. @RiedleroD 5y

                                          ahh I get it. x86/ARM are the istruction sets, and you meant the layout of the processing components, yes?

                                          1. Deleted Account 5y

                                            yes

              2. @RiedleroD 5y

                probably. With some patentable apple-only extensions that ruin both backwards- and forwards-compatiblity with RISC-V and potential compatibility solutions.

      2. @cheburgenashka 5y

        Because taking allegory literally is something that does only kids, downs and very poor comics (the joins rusty Jaime a spatter space in hell for them)

        1. @RiedleroD 5y

          and taking yourself too seriously is something only assholes do. What's your point?

  15. @cheburgenashka 5y

    ARM does not suffer from this. I cannot find that awesome article that explained why X86 suck (especially in power consumption)

    1. Deleted Account 5y

      how is simd bad?

    2. @RiedleroD 5y

      why is ARM having less extensions a good thing?

      1. @cheburgenashka 5y

        Complexity of the pipilene synchronisation.

        1. @RiedleroD 5y

          and why is complexity bad in this case? Besides for the people designing the processors.

          1. @cheburgenashka 5y

            This dude explains it better than me: https://stackoverflow.com/a/17294084

            1. Deleted Account 5y

              that's not "extenions" fault

            2. @RiedleroD 5y

              he's talking about 32-bit x86, and I'm very much not sure how all that scales to modern processors.

              1. @RiedleroD 5y

                also, there are various advantages to variable-byte instruction sets. I don't know much about this, but I do know that it isn't as clear cut out as you make it out to be.

                1. Deleted Account 5y

                  they are supposed to be more compact, therefore fit in the instruction cache better

    3. Deleted Account 5y

      also, arm has simd too

      1. @cheburgenashka 5y

        Is not just that. X86 have to deal with a big variation of different instruction sets legacy and to be able to synchronise that hell where they might take a variable amount of cycles.

        1. Deleted Account 5y

          valid point

  16. @cheburgenashka 5y

    Damn it! I lost my source and now doomed to argue with kiddos. I'm GTFOing from this thread (until I'm films it)

    1. Deleted Account 5y

      again, no problem with arm itself, problem with apple

      1. @RiedleroD 5y

        aye, I'm on board with that.

        1. @RiedleroD 5y

          ARM>x86 any day, but not for all applications, and not with how chip manufacturers are behaving.

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