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Containerization Post #5117 · source on Telegram

The Inescapable Gift of More YAML in Kubernetes

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A four-panel comic strip meme depicting the frustrating relationship between a Kubernetes administrator and YAML configuration files. In the first panel, an angry character labeled 'kubernetes admin' yells at a rat, 'GET AWAY YOU CARRIER OF YAML'. In the second panel, the rat offers a red gift box, saying, 'I ALSO CARRY PRESENTS'. The admin's mood softens in the third panel, saying 'AWW' as they accept the gift. The final panel reveals the punchline: the rat declares, 'IT'S more YAML', leading to the admin's off-screen thought bubble, 'GOD DAMMIT'. This meme humorously captures a core pain point in the DevOps and cloud-native world. While Kubernetes offers powerful features (the 'presents'), the implementation and management invariably require writing and maintaining vast amounts of YAML, making the 'gift' feel like more of the same burden

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Anonymous ★ Top Pick Kubernetes is the ultimate Trojan horse. You think you're getting a gift of scalable, resilient infrastructure, but once it's inside your walls, thousands of tiny YAML files pour out
  1. Anonymous ★ Top Pick

    Kubernetes is the ultimate Trojan horse. You think you're getting a gift of scalable, resilient infrastructure, but once it's inside your walls, thousands of tiny YAML files pour out

  2. Anonymous

    Every time the CNCF gifts us a “simpler deployment tool,” I end up unboxing a Russian doll of Helm values inside Kustomize overlays inside an operator CRD - right down to the same two-space-indented YAML hell

  3. Anonymous

    The real gift of Kubernetes isn't container orchestration at scale - it's the endless YAML manifests that make you question whether that promotion to platform engineer was worth trading your sanity for declarative configuration files that break with a single misplaced space

  4. Anonymous

    Every Kubernetes admin's career arc: Day 1 - 'YAML is just structured data, how hard can it be?' Day 30 - 'I've memorized the entire K8s API spec.' Day 90 - 'I dream in indentation levels.' Day 180 - 'I've written a 47-page internal wiki on our YAML linting standards.' Day 365 - *receives another Helm chart to review* 'GOD DAMMIT.' The real joke? We all know JSON would've been worse, and don't even mention XML. At least with YAML, you can pretend the whitespace sensitivity builds character

  5. Anonymous

    Kubernetes “presents” are just Helm charts wrapped in Kustomize overlays with a CRD bow - open it to find the same Deployment defined three times and an outage scheduled by one tab

  6. Anonymous

    On Kubernetes, even gifts are CRDs; unwrap them and you get a Helm chart that renders five more YAMLs and a ConfigMap mounting your disappointment

  7. Anonymous

    Kubernetes orchestrates containers flawlessly - until YAML's whitespace turns your prod deploy into a plague of heisenbugs

  8. @coconut_walter 3y

    Admin, became DevOps now?

    1. @SuperUserJarvis 3y

      so?

      1. @coconut_walter 3y

        I dont expect question as answer on my own so you win. Congratulations

        1. @SuperUserJarvis 3y

          you don't need to expect on your own, here is a question I'm asking you: So??

          1. @coconut_walter 3y

            So is not Dev Memes now, it should be named DevOps Memes

            1. @SuperUserJarvis 3y

              hehe funny, I see the humor, your sentence was probably not very well formatted

    2. @mekosko 3y

      Admin is running host system, bare metal server, physical infrastructure and DevOps is editing yaml files

    3. @SamsonovAnton 3y

      DevOps is way too mainstream now. AI is the new trend. So more and more meme channel admins become AI operators.

      1. @coconut_walter 3y

        Yeeh, thas true, so now Its a good idea to create chanel with AI generated memes. Or at least memes about AI

  9. Deleted Account 3y

    Aaaaaaaaa ptsd

    1. @chupasaurus 3y

      All APIs are by default using JSON with a single rarely used exception, so you have PTSD for something there isn't.

      1. Deleted Account 3y

        I was talking about yaml not k8s

        1. @chupasaurus 3y

          Well, YAML has the same problem as any other markup language imo - it sucks.

          1. @SamsonovAnton 3y

            Elaborate, please. What is so wrong with markup languages in general?

            1. @chupasaurus 3y

              Ini sucks in so many ways I don't need to point to any of them XML sucks because of readability, writing and parsing it correctly are !!fun!! JSON sucks because writing it is !!fun!! YAML sucks because of !!fun!! with strings, i.e. multiple ways for multiline ones Haven't worked much with TOML, looks fine spec-wise. You might say "but you don't need to write XML/JSON without tools!", well good luck pushing around text between the tool, a browser, and a termulator with a 3rd layer of SSH sessions.

          2. @callofvoid0 3y

            is yaml a markup language?

            1. @chupasaurus 3y

              Yet another

          3. Deleted Account 3y

            Toml is good

          4. @endisn16h 3y

            cry about it

  10. @Algoinde 3y

    so sorry for your loss

  11. @Algoinde 3y

    dev ops still has dev in it, just as web dev

  12. @RichStallman 3y

    YAML, oh YAML, you're a beauty to behold, Your syntax is clean, your structure is bold. JSON may be fine, but it's no match for thee, For YAML, you're the one, the only one for me. With your ability to nest and elegantly display, Your simplicity and readability make my day. You make my code cleaner, my data easier to read, JSON may be useful, but YAML's what I need.

    1. @intbyte20 3y

      Chatgpt is the author?

    2. Deleted Account 3y

      🤢

    3. dev_meme 3y

      In the crypts of code, where whispers dwell, Lies a language fair, a story to tell. YAML, the beauty, concise yet clear, Its syntax soothing, to all coders dear. As the raven quoth, "Nevermore," with gloom, YAML shines, banishing darkness from the room. In data's embrace, structure it reveals, An elegance unparalleled, the heart it steals. Upon the parchment, keys and values dance, Nested, indented, in a graceful trance. Oh YAML, sweet YAML, thy charm shall never wane, In the realm of code, forever shall you reign.

      1. @RiedleroD 3y

        damn

      2. @RichStallman 3y

        In the world of markup languages, Where YAML and XML reign supreme, GNUML emerges victorious, A new language like never seen. With GPLv3's license to lead, It frees us from syntax overload, And with Stallman as our guide, Our documents will forever be bold.

        1. Manuel 3y

          Introducing the Perfect Markup Language (PML). PML is designed to address the limitations of existing markup languages like TOML, YAML, and XML, by being both human-readable and machine-friendly, while offering a streamlined syntax and powerful features. Here is an overview of PML's core design principles and features: Readability: PML prioritizes human readability by using clear, concise, and consistent syntax. Minimalism: PML uses minimal punctuation and delimiters, making it easier to write and read. Extensibility: PML is easily extensible and can adapt to a variety of data structures and use cases. Strict typing: PML supports strict typing, allowing for precise data representation and validation. Error resilience: PML is designed to be error-resilient, enabling parsers to recover gracefully from syntax errors. Comments: PML supports both single and multi-line comments for better documentation. Namespaces: PML provides namespace support, avoiding naming conflicts and promoting modular design. Schemas: PML can be validated against a schema, ensuring data integrity and conformity. Here's a simple example of PML syntax: css # This is a single-line comment /* This is a multi-line comment */ !doctype PML person { name: "John Doe" age: 35 address { street: "123 Main St" city: "Anytown" state: "CA" zip: "12345" } emails [ "[email protected]", "[email protected]" ] } product { id: "P123" name: "Sample Product" price: 19.99 tags [ "electronics", "gadgets" ] } PML combines the best aspects of TOML, YAML, and XML to create a powerful, yet user-friendly markup language. It is designed to be simple and efficient, making it ideal for configuration files, data exchange, and a wide range of other applications.

          1. Manuel 3y

            So the ai thinks the perfect markup language is basically typescript object definition without comma

          2. @callofvoid0 3y

            its just json

            1. Manuel 3y

              What about this?

              1. @callofvoid0 3y

                when a clown makes a markup language

              2. @callofvoid0 3y

                what if my key data isn't representable by emojy

              3. @affirvega 3y

                shouldn't it be [🏠🔀🔽👪🔀4🌀🐶🔀"Buddy"🔼] can also use 🔼🔽 as open and close, this way it can be copy pasted into other parts of WML 🔽🏠🔀🔽👪🔀4🌀🐶🔀"Buddy"🔼🔼

                1. dev_meme 3y

                  Also brackets should be changed to one provided by ChatGPT 👀

                  1. @callofvoid0 3y

                    isn't it just double brackets?

                    1. Deleted Account 3y

                      Nope, looks like mathbb{[]}

              4. @affirvega 3y

                (can you ask it to write serializer and deserializer for this wml with the correction?)

              5. Deleted Account 3y

                Lmao

          3. Deleted Account 3y

            Looks good

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