Return-to-Office: The Easiest Way to Lose Your Engineers

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This image is a screenshot of a tweet from user Chris Herd (@chris_herd). The tweet is on a black background with white text. It starts with the line 'From a CEO:', followed by a direct quote: '"Every time a competitor mentions return to office our recruiters reach out to their people. We've hired 15+ of their engineers in the last 2 months."'. Below the quote, the original poster adds, 'So easy.'. This tweet captures a significant trend in the post-pandemic tech industry, where the demand for remote work remains high among skilled professionals, especially software engineers. The core joke is a cynical but realistic take on corporate strategy: one company's unpopular, mandatory return-to-office (RTO) policy becomes a competitor's golden recruiting opportunity. For senior engineers, this is a validating piece of content that underscores their market value and the leverage that flexible work arrangements provide. It's a direct critique of management teams that ignore employee preferences, effectively creating a talent pipeline for their rivals

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Anonymous ★ Top Pick Our competitor's biggest contribution to the open-source community this year was their entire senior engineering team, courtesy of their new mandatory RTO policy

Anonymous ★ Top Pick

Our competitor's biggest contribution to the open-source community this year was their entire senior engineering team, courtesy of their new mandatory RTO policy
Anonymous

Our hiring pipeline is basically event-driven: the second a competitor publishes an RTO policy, a Kafka topic fires, a Lambda auto-sends offers, and we autoscale headcount with zero cold starts
Anonymous

The best debugging tool for fixing your talent retention issues? Your competitor's RTO announcement email - it's like a perfectly timed garbage collection that frees up senior engineers for immediate allocation to your remote-first heap
Anonymous

Nothing says 'competitive advantage' quite like your rivals doing your recruiting for you. While some CEOs spend millions on RTO mandates and real estate, this one just set up a Slack channel called '#thanks-for-the-referrals' and watched senior engineers with 15 YoE self-select into their pipeline. It's the ultimate arbitrage: their competitors pay the severance, handle the exit interviews, and even provide the motivation speech ('you must return to office'). Meanwhile, this CEO is running the most efficient talent acquisition funnel in tech - powered entirely by other people's terrible policy decisions. Who needs a recruiting budget when your competition is basically running a free job fair for disgruntled senior engineers?
Anonymous

We subscribe to competitor RTO emails like a Kafka topic - publish event, recruiter Lambdas fan out offers, and the senior-engineer cluster performs a graceful failover to our org
Anonymous

RTO is the industry’s most reliable webhook - announce it and your principal engineers auto-POST to a competitor’s ATS
Anonymous

RTO announcements: competitors' voluntary 'git push' of top engineers straight to our main branch
@s2504s 1y

Explain pls
1. @wielki_arcymistrz 1y
  
  I think the premise is that companies announcing a return-to-office are prone to have their best people hunted down by recruiters from other companies. Engineers will often jump at the first opportunity to find a safe, remote harbour. What I think the meme misses though is that for many if not most of the companies, a return-to-office is de facto a soft layoff policy. Downsize the workforce without having to pay severance.
  
  @SergioEremin 1y
  
  people say that that way the best people would jump the ship, and only the mediocre ones who know that they'd never get a better offer would stay. so if you want to soft-layoff the best people in the company - well, duh
  
  @wielki_arcymistrz 1y
  
  And that's how enshittification ensues.
2. @wielki_arcymistrz 1y
  
  And then there are also the over-employment fags who (together with dumb fucking managers who enable the former) give the office-fags an actual rationale and destroy a good thing for the rest of us
  
  @Le_o_R 1y
  
  You should pay people for output, not ass-on-chair time. If they can produce as much while being overemployed, kudos.
  
  @wielki_arcymistrz 1y
  
  How could one produce as much output while being overemployed, provided that they're not slacking off and working the hours they're paid for in a single job?
  
  @Le_o_R 1y
  
  You get hired to do X. If you do X they reward you with task Y and a raise that doesn't even match inflation. This is what happens in most places. The overemployed become experts in X and with their extra time perform task Z for a whole other paycheck, instead of a tiny raise.
  
  @Le_o_R 1y
  
  And, honestly, the first company benefits by having the employee become an expert in Z as well.
  
  @wielki_arcymistrz 1y
  
  Ah yes, sure. If that's the case then I guess I'd have no objections. Never have I heard though of someone being hired to do just a certain thing a day. The guys doing the over-employment that I knew rather become bullshit experts. They get hired not to do a specific thing but to work a certain amount of time a day, and so they inflate the amount of time every task takes, have phantom meetings with other teams, have constant problems with their machine etc.