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Survivorship Bias Plane Meets the Missing Z-Values in Medical Research
DataScience Post #7406, on Nov 12, 2025 in TG

Survivorship Bias Plane Meets the Missing Z-Values in Medical Research

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A multi-layered statistics meme combining the 'What if we kissed' meme format with a real statistical phenomenon. The bold top text reads 'WHAT IF WE KISSED ON THE SURVIVORSHIP BIAS PLANE FLYING BETWEEN THE MISSING Z-VALUES OF MEDICAL RESEARCH PAPERS' flanked by flushed-face emojis. Below is a histogram showing the 'Distribution of z-values' from medical research papers, with z-values on the x-axis (-6 to 6) and count on the y-axis (0 to ~9000). The distribution shows a conspicuous dip/gap near z=0 and suspicious spikes just beyond the significance thresholds (dashed lines at approximately z=-2 and z=2), indicating p-hacking. Overlaid on the histogram is the famous WWII survivorship bias bomber diagram (Abraham Wald's plane), with bullet holes scattered across it. The meme brilliantly layers three concepts: the romantic 'what if we kissed' format, p-hacking in medical research (the suspicious z-value distribution), and survivorship bias (the plane)

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Anonymous ★ Top Pick The only thing more suspicious than that z-value gap is a data scientist who claims they've never run the analysis 'just one more time' to get p < 0.05
  1. Anonymous ★ Top Pick

    The only thing more suspicious than that z-value gap is a data scientist who claims they've never run the analysis 'just one more time' to get p < 0.05

  2. Anonymous

    The null hypothesis is that we're just friends, but I'm rejecting it based on this statistically significant gap in my social life that you seem to perfectly fit

  3. @RiedleroD 8mo

    I wonder where that graph is from and what the values are for

    1. @Daonifur 8mo

      Looks like the count of medical research papers

  4. @Daonifur 8mo

    No idea from where or what timeframe though, everything is very vague. Could be for a math problem or something

  5. @Subeltz 8mo

    https://medianwatch.netlify.app/post/z_values/

    1. @Daonifur 8mo

      Can confirm this is the source

    2. @RiedleroD 8mo

      mmm, ouch

  6. @Algoinde 8mo

    Shit results prevent others from trying the same and also getting shit results Also low z values in a research might expose an already existing drug being in fact worthless, tanking stonks

  7. @Algoinde 8mo

    maybe, but if you only do what's interesting, you're selfish and don't have the overall field advancement in mind

  8. @Algoinde 8mo

    that's precisely the climate that needs to be eradicated at multiple levels maybe publishing itself needs to be structured differently for this to happen

  9. @Johnny_bit 8mo

    Let's add p-hacking to that :) now we can turn null-result into something worht publishing/getting grant for :)

  10. @theodolu 8mo

    Which is why we don't know which stuff doesn't work and do the same studies over and over again

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