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Hardware Post #6033 · source on Telegram

Roku's Patent for Injecting Ads Over HDMI Sparks Outrage

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This image is a screenshot of a tweet from user Patrick Klepek (@patrickklepek) discussing a controversial Roku patent. The tweet, on a black background, reads: 'Well, this is incredibly gross: Roku has filed a patent that'd allow them to display ads through your HDMI connection, trying to detect if you've paused, say, your Xbox.' Below the text is a high-resolution, close-up photograph of a gold-plated HDMI cable connector on a white background. A banner at the bottom of this image reads, 'Roku explores taking over HDMI feeds with ads.' The meme highlights a significant and concerning trend in tech where companies seek to monetize user experiences in increasingly invasive ways. For experienced engineers, this isn't just about another ad; it's about a fundamental violation of hardware and protocol boundaries. The idea of one device manipulating the signal of another, unrelated device via a standard like HDMI represents a major overreach with potential implications for security, interoperability, and user trust

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Anonymous ★ Top Pick I'm looking forward to the bug where the ad injection fails, corrupts the EDID handshake, and bricks my monitor. That's the kind of disruptive innovation I expect from the smart TV industry
  1. Anonymous ★ Top Pick

    I'm looking forward to the bug where the ad injection fails, corrupts the EDID handshake, and bricks my monitor. That's the kind of disruptive innovation I expect from the smart TV industry

  2. Anonymous

    HDMI might soon stand for “Here’s Dreadful Marketing Interstitials” - finally, a man-in-the-middle attack you have to pay for

  3. Anonymous

    Remember when we thought the worst thing about HDMI was handshake failures? Now we're debugging ad injection at the physical layer. Next they'll be patenting a way to show ads in our git commit messages when we pause to think

  4. Anonymous

    Ah yes, the logical next step in the enshittification pipeline: not content with owning the OS, the app, or the content - now they want to own the *cable*. Can't wait for the inevitable CVE when someone discovers Roku's HDMI man-in-the-middle can be exploited to inject arbitrary frames. At least when we warned about 'smart' devices becoming attack vectors, we didn't expect them to patent the attack surface first. This is what happens when product managers discover HDMI-CEC exists and think 'but what if we made it worse?'

  5. Anonymous

    CAP theorem for living‑room platforms: you can’t have privacy, pass‑through integrity, and ad revenue - pick two; Roku clearly optimized for availability of ads when you hit pause

  6. Anonymous

    When adtech starts negotiating the HDMI handshake, CEC becomes Corporate Enforced Commerce - overlayAds() on pause, and the only standards‑compliant opt‑out is unplug()

  7. Anonymous

    Roku's HDMI patent: the hardware MITM attack where your Xbox pause becomes their ad endpoint

  8. @ZgGPuo8dZef58K6hxxGVj3Z2 2y

    This is a bit late news

  9. @reglnk 2y

    c'mon google already added an ads module to Android Open Source Project

    1. Kademlia 2y

      But discontinued a proper SMS and music player app

      1. @Agent1378 2y

        Use samsung there it all persists

        1. Kademlia 2y

          That's not part of AOSP

          1. @Agent1378 2y

            Well, if its open source then just write your own. Otherwise f** aosp

            1. Deleted Account 2y

              Lineage OS team has made their versions of those apps that follow material you 3 UI & theming, work reliably etc. If you need smth like this they're really good

              1. @Agent1378 2y

                Thanks I use samsung and am very happy

      2. @Araalith 2y

        The proper sms app is TrueCaller.

  10. @GLXBX 2y

    Tf is Roku?

    1. @leklaanc 2y

      Same question

    2. Kademlia 2y

      A set-top box like Apple TV or Kodi

  11. @Agent1378 2y

    Mostly, yes, but also mostly better than other androids (not considering prices)

  12. @Agent1378 2y

    As new as iphone 4 antenna problems "you are holding it wrong"

  13. @Agent1378 2y

    Same😄

  14. @qwnick 2y

    I am not sure that is possible tho. Pause screens are very different, I think only way to do it is for game to notify Xbox system and Xbox system notify HDMI hardware with a specific event.

    1. @theodolu 2y

      HDMI already has pirate recognition system

  15. @theodolu 2y

    Display port it is

    1. @ZgGPuo8dZef58K6hxxGVj3Z2 2y

      Yeah objectively better. Free, and its everywhere. Your laptops display is most likely eDP too

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