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Software Engineer Then vs Now: From 3 Tools to an Entire SaaS Ecosystem
IDEs Editors Post #7448, on Nov 20, 2025 in TG

Software Engineer Then vs Now: From 3 Tools to an Entire SaaS Ecosystem

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A two-panel comparison meme using scenes from the Korean TV series Squid Game, framed with a yellow border. The top panel shows a smiling, happy character (Gi-hun) with the text 'Software Engineer Then:' accompanied by just three tool icons: VS Code (blue), IntelliJ IDEA (red/black), and a database tool with a green play button. The bottom panel shows the same character looking exhausted, stressed, and defeated with 'Software Engineer Now:' followed by an overwhelming grid of application icons including: VS Code, IntelliJ IDEA, the database tool (same three as before), plus Cursor AI, Notion, Vercel, ChatGPT, Claude, Grok, Perplexity, Gemini, plus additional tools like RecCloud, Tidio, Zapier, Calendly, PicWish, and a Figma-like icon. The contrast illustrates how modern software engineering has gone from needing just an IDE and a database client to requiring an entire constellation of AI assistants, deployment platforms, automation tools, scheduling apps, and productivity software

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Anonymous ★ Top Pick In 2020, you needed to master your IDE. In 2025, you need to master 15 AI tools just to write the same CRUD app -- but now each one has a $20/month subscription
  1. Anonymous ★ Top Pick

    In 2020, you needed to master your IDE. In 2025, you need to master 15 AI tools just to write the same CRUD app -- but now each one has a $20/month subscription

  2. Anonymous

    My IDE used to just fight with the linter. Now my IDE, five AI copilots, three cloud CLIs, and a dozen SaaS plugins all fight over who gets to leak my API keys first

  3. @greyxray 7mo

    2 ide but no slack? he must be a staff

    1. dev_meme 7mo

      That’s bottom text, about more icons being needed sigh

  4. @aytomik 7mo

    Software Engineer Before:

    1. @realVitShadyTV 7mo

      Me still (somethimes):

      1. @ramillimar 7mo

        Better than vs code unironically

  5. @ramillimar 7mo

    what is bottom line

  6. @ramillimar 7mo

    and second bottom line

  7. @azureceo 7mo

    where is antigravity

  8. @ramillimar 7mo

    i feel myself sometimes like an old man for not delegating code to ais, and now there are more layers of bloatware beyond my knowledge and comprehension

    1. @sysoevyarik 7mo

      No, you just young enough to use functioning brain instead of digital wheelchair for thinking

    2. @ZmEYkA_3310 7mo

      i feel like delegating coding to ai is something i would never do because something that literally can only suggest the next word makes my code drift off in the opposite direction of where i want it to go Edit: also if ai can write it, then it already exists, so why am i writing that? (unless its for learning, in which case why is ai even relevant?)

  9. @fleebz 7mo

    eclipse code::blocks and netbeans forgotten

  10. @deadgnom32 7mo

    now

  11. @fleebz 7mo

    any other nano users here

  12. @q_rsqrt 7mo

    fuck you

    1. @chupasaurus 7mo

      Says compiler to you each time.

      1. @q_rsqrt 7mo

        it takes me 5 seconds to get the compiler error, fix a typo, and compile again

  13. @RiedleroD 7mo

    …5 of those are just different LLMs

  14. @H6B1If 7mo

    Why would anyone use so much different AIs?

    1. @Algoinde 7mo

      prompt one llm -> fail -> prompt another llm -> fail -> prompt another llm ->

      1. @H6B1If 7mo

        This is some Las Vegas gambling level shit. If you don't know how to tell an LLM what to do, you don't know what you're doing

        1. @chupasaurus 7mo

          The whole vibe coding is fake it till "you" make it type shit

        2. dev_meme 7mo

          The only two LLMs I can recommend, that are truly helpful (call them whatever you like, they don't comprehend)

  15. @deadgnom32 7mo

    so it has begun.

  16. @G0IEA 7mo

    zed.dev

    1. @vgy4sw 7mo

      Another vscode

      1. @DerKnerd 7mo

        Nope, build from scratch in rust

  17. @DerKnerd 7mo

    Regarding editors and IDEs I am completely fine with new developments but just a VS code fork is meh

  18. @DerKnerd 7mo

    I think simple editors, Kate, Notepad++ and Sublime do have a very well defined use case. You wouldn't open a full IDE to check a small config file. I prefer Jetbrains Fleet for that, but yeah. And Android Studio is actually used a ton for Android dev. IntelliJ, sadly, is not up on the latest changes in Android and takes rather long to integrate them. So yeah, code editor is surprisingly broad in the industry. IDE though? That is mostly Jetbrains, VS, Android Studio (which is kinda Jetbrains) and XCode

    1. @chupasaurus 7mo

      it is IDEA with some unique plugins

      1. @DerKnerd 7mo

        Not quite, it has also some changes in it that are not portable to IDEA

        1. @chupasaurus 7mo

          I know, but 90+% are still IDEA.

          1. @DerKnerd 7mo

            but these 10% make, sadly, a huge difference

  19. @Algoinde 7mo

    yeahhhh

    1. @Algoinde 7mo

      pycharm is epic for python vscode is for frontend dogshit visual studio because C# and I'm CBA to set up Rider sublime works extremely well for grepping extremely huge codebases

      1. @chupasaurus 7mo

        Better than ripgrep?)

        1. @Algoinde 7mo

          not literally grepping, for navigating & find & replace

  20. _ 7mo

    In embedded dev vendors all provide their own IDE, but most of them are just repackaged Eclipse. (The notable exception is the repackaged NetBeans)

  21. @seyfer 7mo

    Only Cursor, only vibecoding. Don't type anything except prompts Chat window is the only window you can edit

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