Microsoft Locks OSR Out of Driver Signing After VeraCrypt, WireGuard, Windscribe

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A dark-mode X (Twitter) post reacting in profanity-laden disbelief: 'Microsoft locked out OSR?! Holy FUCKING shit. I thought VeraCrypt and WireGuard was bad. Dawg, someone at Microsoft is fucking up BAD. This is ridiculous.' The author recounts that the initial excuse was unverified emails ('oh two people probably made a small mistake, bureaucracy, dumb stuff, weird coincidence') 'But then Windscribe... AND OSR?! What the fuck is going on at Microsoft? There is a galactic level of fuck up happening somewhere.' Below is a quoted post from verified @OSRDrivers (1d): 'After 30+ years of signing windows drivers, we have been locked out of driver signing like many other companies. In a word, the disrespect and disregard w... Show more'. Context: Microsoft's Windows hardware/driver signing program (Partner Center attestation) locked out longtime kernel-driver vendors - OSR (the legendary Windows internals consultancy), VeraCrypt, WireGuard, and Windscribe - blocking them from shipping signed drivers and exposing how a single mandatory gatekeeper can break the entire Windows driver ecosystem through bureaucratic process failures

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Anonymous ★ Top Pick Thirty years of writing the book on Windows drivers, defeated not by PatchGuard but by an email verification flow - the kernel's most privileged ring turns out to be Partner Center

Anonymous ★ Top Pick

Thirty years of writing the book on Windows drivers, defeated not by PatchGuard but by an email verification flow - the kernel's most privileged ring turns out to be Partner Center
Anonymous

The root of trust is apparently a support ticket with a 90-day TTL.
@nwordtech 4mo

Don't interrupt your enemy making a mistake
@DavidGarciaCat 4mo

Just stop using Windows and let's see how fast they drop their crap
1. @sysoevyarik 4mo
  
  Any alternatives in mind?
  
  @DavidGarciaCat 4mo
  
  Linux? That way, you can keep using the same hardware Just assuming not everyone will be willing to pay for 🍎
  
  @sysoevyarik 4mo
  
  But can it run solidworks? (Extra points if can run pirated solidworks) or Photoshop? Or m$office compatible office?
  
  @death_by_oom 4mo
  
  You are forgetting this is a Dev chat, not general engineering. Linux is not the alternative it's the main solution
  
  @sysoevyarik 4mo
  
  So you mean if I am a dev, then I have no need in using non-dev tools? Fine
  
  @death_by_oom 4mo
  
  You might have a need, but probably not a professional need, which means you can dictate what you use. You don't have a company demanding you use a specific 3d modelling solution thay have a licence to for example
  
  @sysoevyarik 4mo
  
  Switching to other cad means I can no longer meaningfully share source files with manufacturer and I limit myself by step/stl. Same with adobe stuff and especially office. And by the way, do you know any of "free open source suckless halal linux" alternatives for solidworks, and rest?
  
  @death_by_oom 4mo
  
  STEP and STL are standards, they exist for the purpose of sharing between cad software
  
  @sysoevyarik 4mo
  
  Do you share ELF files instead of source code?
  
  @death_by_oom 4mo
  
  STEP is not a windows specific file, it was designed with the goal of cad software interop
  
  @feedable 4mo
  
  neither are real solutions tho
  
  @feedable 4mo
  
  idk, can windows?
  
  @sysoevyarik 4mo
  
  What?
  
  @feedable 4mo
  
  i can for example run f360 just fine on linux
  
  @feedable 4mo
  
  but on windows it just works like shit
  
  @feedable 4mo
  
  I wasn't really able to test sw, but in my memory it performed worse than f360 anyway in terms of being a good cad
  
  dev_meme 4mo
  
  You’re forgetting how MANY windows as main OS devs is out there, and how many devs have job in one of other way directly linked to it
  
  @death_by_oom 4mo
  
  I'd still wager it's a minority
  
  @death_by_oom 4mo
  
  Also, surprise, surprise, you have to alter your workflows if you migrate to a new os, this is true for migrating from Linux to Windows as well
  
  @deadgnom32 4mo
  
  but it's software for professionals. 99.99% of office workers do well without them. nowadays people simply ask ai to edit their pictures. libreoffice and onlyoffice are Ms compatible.
  
  @sysoevyarik 4mo
  
  >Ms compatible. Do you really worked with them? I don't meet incompatibility problems often by myself, but according to mother, libreoffice documents from customers are almost always broken
  
  @b7sum 4mo
  
  i worked with those and never got any problems on my side
  
  @deadgnom32 4mo
  
  same applies to Ms office when dealing with different versions and even locales. if you have studied recently, you may recall that you always need to have your presentation as a pdf, because sometimes every office format fails. sharing raw documents is just the wrong way to go.
  
  @sysoevyarik 4mo
  
  >you always need to have your presentation as a pdf Fair one.
  
  @death_by_oom 4mo
  
  Gsuite. All your arguments are from the position of not wanting to adapt. There absolutely are reasons to use windows, but you just microsloped your brain to jelly and sit in the swamp of your own accord
  
  @sysoevyarik 4mo
  
  >sit in the swamp of your own accord Man... I use both windows and pinux (and second one is actually main os). I had a two year period of "only penguin os" and it was terrible so I switched back to dualboot. In the end goal of OS is to run software and halalOS can't do it sometimes
  
  @deadgnom32 4mo
  
  google doc is doing quite well indeed. but Europeans have a rising concern about it running on American servers and we are taking a independence course. for personal usage may be ok — but for corporate needs may be not.
  
  @feedable 4mo
  
  same applies to msoffice
  
  @deadgnom32 4mo
  
  MS*
  
  @Daonifur 4mo
  
  Android, it just needs to support more Windows software
@dzek69 4mo

WTF is OSR?
1. @AlexKart20129 4mo
  
  🤷‍♂️
2. @offensive_otter 4mo
  
  Came here to ask the same question.
3. @SamsonovAnton 4mo
  
  In the context of Windows, I can only remember "OEM Service Release", of which Windows 95 had a couple — the last one labeled as "Windows 95 OSR 2.5", for example. Those turned into Service Packs later.
4. @nyxiereal 4mo
  
  Its a windows software consultancy company
我が名はレギオン 4mo

Noname company
dev_meme 4mo

Anyway, after intervention from MS VP it got resolved
@Agent1378 4mo

"Someone". "Something", to be precise. And you can't blame it because its a thing not a person
@AlexKart20129 4mo

I don't know what the hell this OSR is and what they do, but this guy is seriously talking about respect from Microslop. 🤡
1. @Agent1378 4mo
  
  Getting and processing verification emails and etc. is a task thats asks to be done by AI. Screwing it up silently during processing and ignoring such a verifications and leaving some people unverified is a bug you would expect from AI.
@lenzoid 4mo

horray centralization
@Agent1378 4mo

@morryrebbykh hello
@Agent1378 4mo

So, how is wine doing nowadays?
@HmDori 4mo

What wrong with veracryp?
1. @deimossos 4mo
  
  They were also locked put of their microslop account
@Agent1378 4mo

Ms forgot this
@Agent1378 4mo

Now they'll face the consequences
@abel1502 4mo

Centralized signing is bullshit in the first place, especially when it's done by the platform owners
bur del lago 4mo

ong ong bro dawg this is fucked up bad BAD!
@sysoevyarik 4mo

Not sure if step supports nondestructive editing, I'll check it later. BTW still not a single word about what are this Linux alternatives.
1. @death_by_oom 4mo
  
  FreeCAD, libreOffice, Google suite
  
  @sysoevyarik 4mo
  
  >freecad ...
2. @death_by_oom 4mo
  
  Don't know shit about photo editing, so idk what are the alternatives for Photoshop
@sysoevyarik 4mo

What's up with animations in libreoffice impress?)
1. @b7sum 4mo
  
  didn't use this one though
@sysoevyarik 4mo

Also, isn't switching to google contradicts with "let's avoid corporate slop such as bindows"?
1. @death_by_oom 4mo
  
  "Lets avoid Microslop" is the first goal
2. @death_by_oom 4mo
  
  Also, I'm on MacOS, I already sold my soul to the corporate overlords
@sysoevyarik 4mo

axiom of choice ("аксиома эскобара") in practice
1. @feedable 4mo
  
  it doesn't have to be this way tho, and i don't really know why would anyone lock themselves into either msoffise or gsuite. Both are bad, and not really compatible even with each other
  
  @feedable 4mo
  
  lo works better than gsuite for compat with msoffice, so rejecting the former and not the latter just sounds to me like willing lock-in
  
  @feedable 4mo
  
  almost as-if that discussion happened a billion times and was steered to the conclusion "oh i'm just a corpo chud fml anyhow"

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