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AI ML Post #4348 · source on Telegram

Autopilot misclassifies pedestrians as traffic signal, forcing a liability dilemma

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Meme in minimalist black-and-white style depicting a Tesla on the left side of a curving roadway heading toward stick-figure pedestrians on the right. Centered text reads: "Tesla autopilot thinks these people are a green light and is accelerating toward them." Beneath, another line says: "If you swerve, you'll only hit one, but autopilot will turn off and you're liable for all damages." At the bottom, text concludes: "If you don't touch the wheel, autopilot kills all of them, but you're not guilty and Elon pays a fine." The scene humorously illustrates a trolley-problem variant where the AI vision model has mis-classified humans as a green light, raising questions about machine perception errors, edge-case handling, and legal responsibility in autonomous-vehicle ML systems

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Anonymous ★ Top Pick CV team: “Only 0.0001% of frames confuse pedestrians with green lights.” Architect: “Great, we’ve essentially shipped a stochastic trolley problem with an SLA measured in court dates.”
  1. Anonymous ★ Top Pick

    CV team: “Only 0.0001% of frames confuse pedestrians with green lights.” Architect: “Great, we’ve essentially shipped a stochastic trolley problem with an SLA measured in court dates.”

  2. Anonymous

    The real bug isn't in the computer vision model - it's in assuming we can delegate moral decisions to a neural network trained on dashcam footage while the legal framework is still running on Common Law v1.0 from 1066 AD

  3. Anonymous

    Autopilot disengaging 0.3 seconds before impact is the most elegant exception handler ever shipped: catch (Liability e) { rethrow_to(driver); }

  4. Anonymous

    The classic trolley problem, now with a SLA and terms of service. In production, we've discovered that the optimal solution to ethical AI isn't solving the trolley problem - it's ensuring the liability gets routed to a different microservice. Tesla's autopilot has apparently implemented the 'not my problem' design pattern: if the human touches the wheel, ownership transfers and the system gracefully exits with a legal exception. It's like a distributed system where accountability sharding means nobody's truly responsible - except perhaps the poor engineer who has to explain in the postmortem why the collision detection model classified pedestrians as 'green lights.' At least when your Kubernetes cluster makes a bad decision, it doesn't require a philosophy degree and a legal team to debug

  5. Anonymous

    Autopilot microservices: perception occasionally labels pedestrians “green,” planning accelerates, intervening flips “driver liable” - turns out the only truly autonomous service is blame propagation

  6. Anonymous

    Autonomy microservices in a nutshell: vision mislabels pedestrians as a light, planner floors it, and the liability service does a zero-downtime failover to Driver on the first torque sample

  7. Anonymous

    Autopilot's blameless postmortem policy: hands-off for AI root cause analysis, touch wheel and you're the SRE on-call for the pedestrian outage

  8. @AmirhosseinDotZip 4y

    Damn that's Sofie's choice

  9. @s_yak_dollar 4y

    Какую бабку? Тормоз давить надо!

    1. @sylfn 4y

      please use English in this chat

      1. @Zhenyokmsk 4y

        Which gramma? Brake, you should hit brake!

        1. @s_yak_dollar 4y

          Thank you

  10. @novaksm 4y

    No

  11. @ozalexo 4y

    Let Elon pay.

    1. @mvolfik 4y

      This is a great reaction format

  12. @mvolfik 4y

    👉👈 mine now

    1. @ozalexo 4y

      You are welcome! :)

  13. dev_meme 4y

    Wonderful

  14. @Vivaldes 4y

    The only question is w_h_y Tesla's autopilot recognizes them as a green light

    1. @Eco_azul 4y

      Obvious, Irishmen in St. Patrick's day.

  15. @azizhakberdiev 4y

    Tesla autopilot recognizes green light as people and slows down...

  16. @azizhakberdiev 4y

    Tesla autopilot recognizes driver's hands on the wheel and speeds up on people

    1. dev_meme 4y

      🌚

  17. @RiedleroD 4y

    if you hit the brakes, the car will stop right in front of the people, and the battery explodes, killing them and you. Elon pays an even larger fine and you're doubly not guilty (good ending)

  18. @RiedleroD 4y

    if you try to switch gears, the Tesla will get confused and bore a tunnel straight to Elon's subterranean base where he's hiding all the lizard people (besides zucc)

    1. @RiedleroD 4y

      (secret ending)

  19. @RiedleroD 4y

    regardless of what you do, Elon manages to change public opinion into blaming you via a PR campaign that costs more than the fine itself, including attorney costs. (true ending) look up the case where McDonalds managed to convince everyone they got sued because someone was too stupid to hold a cup of coffee. Same shit.

    1. @RiedleroD 4y

      oh and the one time bp invented the personal carbon footprint (well, popularized it) to distract from their recent gigantic oil spill. Truly hilarious.

      1. @RiedleroD 4y

        capitalism was a mistake

        1. dev_meme 4y

          But what is an alternative (for you)? Please, i dont want to live in gulag or shanghai

          1. @RiedleroD 4y

            I don't know…

            1. @RiedleroD 4y

              I won't pretend to know any better than any country's leader… Maybe humanity is just inherently shit, who knows.

      2. dev_meme 4y

        And now we live with. Is everyone ready to buy those juice carbon credits directly or via increased price on high-quality products?

  20. @Kyngo 4y

    so... either I pay or Elon pays...

  21. @Kyngo 4y

    let's make Elon a little bit poorer then

  22. @Kyngo 4y

    like he would give a fuck about paying such thing

  23. @QutePoet 4y

    We are trying to decide what to do on the step 3. On the step 1 you somehow get a Tesla ans on the step 2 you are going for a ride. And who from you can allow to get Tesla? If you want it in car sharing, you need to get really big level in the system to even get in array of accounts who possibly can drive this car.

    1. @RiedleroD 4y

      Basically, there's three things stopping me from getting into this scenario: - I'm not rich enough to drive a tesla. - I don't have a driver's license. - I'm not social enough to go for a ride to where people are

      1. dev_meme 4y

        Regarding 3rd point How the fuck you transfer yourself to places on distance >1km from your home?

        1. @RiedleroD 4y

          I usually don't 🙃 nah, I just turn my brain off and take public transit. There's no social interaction if there's no interaction.

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